The Sith Who Posed The Greatest Threat

Started by GenomeFrozener5 pages

Too bad the Son wasn't a Sith.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Yeah Darth Sidious was Noted by Lucas as the Most P.O.W.E.R.F.U.L Sith But Not the Most Powerful Sith that EVER lived that small part is what Y.O.U. added E.V.E.R. but what was he Most Powerful In was NOT specified. ONLY Said to being Most Powerful by Lucas, Which is why they Created Other and Previous Dark Lords Of The Sith to know how powerful they were compared to other Sith Generations and to Keep the Star Wars Franchise Going. and Yes the J.E.D.I had No way of Knowing FROM YOUR VIEWPOINT since it wasnt fully Detailed in the Books Provided to you and in YOUR EYES to make a Confirmation or a Observation conserning that Fact. and Anakin Had one of the Highest Potentials but never reached it. and me N.O.T knowing everything is a Fact, but that is only said by people that i have Encountered over the Net that are Intimidated by My Intelligence and Perception Contradicting their's and as for Ragnos he's the Strongest Force user in History. and actually the Biographer would know the Events that happened before his Time if Perception is high enough, Thats what gives Meaning to what Historians are about. Finding Observing and Photographicly memorizing the Previous Events, Piecing the Puzzles Together Uncovering the Mystery of the Past. Sorry you are wrong in All factors get used to it.

History isn't about making stuff up. Your version contradicts known information. It's not just from my eyes, it's from the eyes of known information, and your opinion is frankly entirely secondary to what's in canon.

Also, Lucas made his statement well after the creation of Ragnos and the prior statement, and is about someone who came after the biographer.

The most powerful sith in history changes every time a more powerful Sith comes along. Ragnos was the most powerful sith in history at his time. Later, more powerful Sith came along, with more knowledge and skills that built on top of his.

And you'll never get anywhere if your response to facts is to just say the others person's wrong without being able to back it up with anything but assertions.

Like GenomeFrozener noted, Sidious has better feats than Ragnos.

Lucas has never (to my knowledge) referred to Sidious as the most powerful anything.

Originally posted by Q99
History isn't about making stuff up. Your version contradicts known information. It's not just from my eyes, it's from the eyes of known information, and your opinion is frankly entirely secondary to what's in canon.

Also, Lucas made his statement well after the creation of Ragnos and the prior statement, and is about someone who came after the biographer.

The most powerful sith in history changes every time a more powerful Sith comes along. Ragnos was the most powerful sith in history at his time. Later, more powerful Sith came along, with more knowledge and skills that built on top of his.

And you'll never get anywhere if your response to facts is to just say the others person's wrong without being able to back it up with anything

Like GenomeFrozener noted, Sidious has better feats than Ragnos.

History isnt about Making stuff up? that was a Unsure Statement, that lets me know you are Supporting your Opinion to the Maximum Thinking Darth Viliate Or Darth Sidious was the Most Powerful and Bringing any Form of Evidence, (Even Though the evidence you Bring is not Etched in Stone) to Support your Opinion. "MY "VERSION" contradicts Known Information? More Like Contradicts a Highly Achknowledged Opinion that seems Sensible but not Factual. And it is True that The Most Powerful Sith In History Changes everytime a More Powerful Sith Comes Along. But what Sith that Succeeded Ragnos in Physical Strength and In the Force was Not Specificly Specified, Nor Stated by a Star Wars Creator. and You Saying Darth Sidious has better Feats then Ragnos? thats an Opinionated Statement from the Heart, you Contradicted yourself again. Almost Nothing was Said About Most of Ragnos's Feats for you to even come to that Blunt yet Stupid Conclusion. The Only thing that was Specificly Stated about 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats was Told by None Other Then Darth Traya. Darth Traya Speaking to Meetra Surik, Stating that Marka Ragnos Possessed Tremendous Strength Both Physically and In the Force. and was Powerful enough to Turn his Enemys Against each Other, Making them kill themselfs Or Each other. (With or Without out Breaking their wills in the Process.) nor Wasting any Physical or Spiritual Energy Doing so, but Controlling their Minds. Thus Securing The Sith Throne. that was the Only thing Noted About 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats. This is getting Fun(:

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
History isnt about Making stuff up? that was a Unsure Statement, that lets me know you are Supporting your Opinion to the Maximum Thinking Darth Viliate Or Darth Sidious was the Most Powerful and Bringing any Form of Evidence, (Even Though the evidence you Bring is not Etched in Stone) to Support your Opinion. "MY "VERSION" contradicts Known Information? More Like Contradicts a Highly Achknowledged Opinion that seems Sensible but not Factual. And it is True that The Most Powerful Sith In History Changes everytime a More Powerful Sith Comes Along. But what Sith that Succeeded Ragnos in Physical Strength and In the Force was Not Specificly Specified, Nor Stated by a Star Wars Creator. and You Saying Darth Sidious has better Feats then Ragnos? thats an Opinionated Statement from the Heart, you Contradicted yourself again. Almost Nothing was Said About Most of Ragnos's Feats for you to even come to that Blunt yet Stupid Conclusion. The Only thing that was Specificly Stated about 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats was Told by None Other Then Darth Traya. Darth Traya Speaking to Meetra Surik, Stating that Marka Ragnos Possessed Tremendous Strength Both Physically and In the Force. and was Powerful enough to Turn his Enemys Against each Other, Making them kill themselfs Or Each other. (With or Without out Breaking their wills in the Process.) nor Wasting any Physical or Spiritual Energy Doing so, but Controlling their Minds. Thus Securing The Sith Throne. that was the Only thing Noted About 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats. This is getting Fun(:

tl;dr

Learn to back up your arguments with facts.

Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
tl;dr

Learn to back up your arguments with facts.

I do Back up Statements with Facts and Facts that will be revealed in the Future, Im not trying to Lose my job over arguments.

You really shouldn't be on these forums with that way of thinking honestly. You NEVER posted a single fact in ANY of your arguments.

Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
You really shouldn't be on these forums with that way of thinking honestly. You NEVER posted a single fact in ANY of your arguments.
And the Same can be said about you, Since "your Way of thinking is The ABSENCE of Evidence is the Evidence of ABSENCE. thats a Very Flawed Way of Thinking, but i wouldnt expect anything otherwise from Most people these days.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
And the Same can be said about you, Since "your Way of thinking is The ABSENCE of Evidence is the Evidence of ABSENCE. thats a Very Flawed Way of Thinking

Sorry champ, but people on these forums don't follow the rules of quotes from famous actors. And besides, you can't really use the quote yourself with your biased arguments.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
but i wouldnt expect anything otherwise from Most people these days.

I seen some weird characters come and go here, but damn, you honestly take the cake. And that's saying alot here. Kudos.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
History isnt about Making stuff up? that was a Unsure Statement, that lets me know you are Supporting your Opinion to the Maximum Thinking Darth Viliate Or Darth Sidious was the Most Powerful and Bringing any Form of Evidence, (Even Though the evidence you Bring is not Etched in Stone) to Support your Opinion. "MY "VERSION" contradicts Known Information? More Like Contradicts a Highly Achknowledged Opinion that seems Sensible but not Factual.

Actually, Lucas determines the facts.

The evidence may not be 'etched in stone,' but it is more than the evidence you bring. More > less.


And it is True that The Most Powerful Sith In History Changes everytime a More Powerful Sith Comes Along. But what Sith that Succeeded Ragnos in Physical Strength and In the Force was Not Specificly Specified, Nor Stated by a Star Wars Creator.

But we do know that Sidious was the strongest when he took over, so that tells us that either Sidious did, or someone took the title from Ragnos and then Sidious took it from them.

and You Saying Darth Sidious has better Feats then Ragnos? thats an Opinionated Statement from the Heart, you Contradicted yourself again.

Nope, who has the bigger feats is a statement of fact. Size is a measurable thing, it is not a matter of opinion. Sidious has done bigger stuff, period.

And it doesn't come from my heart, it comes from the books, and comics, and all the other canon material.

Almost Nothing was Said About Most of Ragnos's Feats for you to even come to that Blunt yet Stupid Conclusion.

Exactly, Ragnos has almost no feats.

Lack of information does not trump information. That's your problem.

Known information, Sidious wins.

Trying to argue that lack of evidence means Ragnos is better? That's just poor argument.

The Only thing that was Specificly Stated about 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats was Told by None Other Then Darth Traya.

Exactly, Darth Traya who only knew of the Sith who came before her, not the Sith who came in the 4,000 years after.

Darth Traya Speaking to Meetra Surik, Stating that Marka Ragnos Possessed Tremendous Strength Both Physically and In the Force. and was Powerful enough to Turn his Enemys Against each Other, Making them kill themselfs Or Each other. (With or Without out Breaking their wills in the Process.) nor Wasting any Physical or Spiritual Energy Doing so, but Controlling their Minds. Thus Securing The Sith Throne. that was the Only thing Noted About 1 of Marka Ragnos's Feats.

And Vitiate can do all that too, and conquered the galaxy.

Therefore, Vitiate has better feats than Ragnos.

Let me run around and say that Revan can solo anyone. And when people ask me for evidence, I'll just say, just because that there is no evidence to prove my case, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And thus, Revan soloes! Let's see how far I get doing that.

Originally posted by Q99
Actually, Lucas determines the facts.

The evidence may not be 'etched in stone,' but it is more than the evidence you bring. More > less.

Therefore, Vitiate has better feats than Ragnos.

and Since you said that everything you said that is considered evidence is not Etched in Stone in the Star Wars Series. then thats Not Known Factual Information. more like your personal Speculation. CONTRADICTION this is the 3rd Time you Contradicted yourself 😎 and Exactly Marka Ragnos has Almost No KNOWN feats for you to speak of. but still had Feats of Tremendous Power in Other Unknown Areas besides Physical Strength and the Force. and of Course Darth Viliate Can Break Wills, he learned that Technique while training Under Marka Ragnos. but Marka Ragnos didnt need to Break your will for you to do something he said. just Overpower you mind and Control it like a Puppet. even with your Will Intact he would Control and Overpower your will with his Own with little Trouble.

Where did you learn how to write?

You really suck at it.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
he learned that Technique while training Under Marka Ragnos.

Where was that stated?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where did you learn how to write?

You really suck at it.

Where did i learn to Write? Its Called typing not Writing on a Piece of Paper. just incase you forgot illiterate 🙄

Are you retarded?

Whether on paper or typed on a keyboard, your ability as a writer is the same, and your ability is particularly lacking.

Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
Where was that stated?
Where was it stated? it wasnt Stated by any Character. Darth Viliate Didnt not Break the wills of Others untill He Completed his Training Under Marka Ragnos. then after that Viliate lured all the remaining Sith Lords from across the Galaxys to Dromund Kaas or Nathema to break all their wills and absorbed their Force Powers. then had all of them Perticipate in the most complicated Sith Sorcery that Made him Immortal. and to halt his fear of Death.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Are you retarded?

Whether on paper or typed on a keyboard, your ability as a writer is the same, and your ability is particularly lacking.

You dont know my ability as a writer nor do you know my level of Intelligence to even make a Statement like that just from Viewing very Few of my Messages. and Besides you are going to become one of my little Fan boys in the Coming future whether you know it or not 🙂

The evidence of your competence as a writer, as it stands, is rather damning.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The evidence of your competence as a writer, as it stands, is rather damning.
You dont have any "Evidence" of my Competence? 😄 right. but in the future You'll be another one of my Fan Boys.