Originally posted by srankmissingnin
🙄If the ability to trade punches with a character who possessed super speed was in and off itself enough to accurately extrapolate the relative speed of a character, then would could reasonably assume that virtually every character had reflexes. I guess Grundy and General Eiling are all faster than Hulk too with their crazy FTL Speed!
Doomsday doesn't have any speed feats. He has punched several people who do... but that can be said for almost every character, including the other four in this thread, most noticeably the Hulk himself. The fact that outside of punching people, he lacks a single quantifiable speed feat should be self explanatory. But never mind that! Doomsday fought Superman! That means he has super speed because Superman has super speed! Hulk's fought Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Sentry, Genis and Hyperion... but that is just them jobbing to Hulk and forgetting their speed. When Superman fought Doomsday, who didn't (and still doesn't) have a legitimate speed feat, that was an accurate portrayal of Doomsdays speed though... and that isn't at all an half brained, barely thought out double standard... because... well apparently it just isn't...
Because Booster said Doomsday was faster than the Flash while getting his head slammed in a car door?
Well said!!!!!!!!!!!
There's also this from Jurgens own mouth describing the dos Doomsday scene.
DAN JURGENS: Yeah. Yeah.
Here’s a secret: I use competitive athletics as logic for how superhero fights and battles take place. You see this all the time . . . take a very-well established team. A new team, that supposedly has no chance to win, comes into town and beats their [butt]. And why does it happen? It’s because the supposed stronger, better team takes it for granted that they are going to win and [underestimates] the tactics that their opponent is using. It happens all the time.
I apply that to superheroes, as well. I think that with the first contact with Doomsday, the entire Justice League, and certainly Superman, were slow to realize exactly what they were dealing with. First [Doomsday] was just a guy marching through the wilderness. We called him a force of nature, and that’s really how we saw him at the time-but there was that slowness to react.
Add to that that Superman has side concerns at the same time-he’s going to save this block of the city, he’s going to save this kid from falling out the window, this kid from dying in the fire-and it makes [beating Doomsday] difficult.
