The Void vs Superman

Started by Delta19387 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
He said it could be and it couldn't be. I have seen the interview. What we see on panel outweighs a writer's vagueness in an interview. I love how certain things count and certain things don't.

Yep, you do love how certain things count and certain things don't. It's exactly what you're doing right here. And often do.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Yep, you do love how certain things count and certain things don't. It's exactly what you're doing right here. And often do.
What am I saying doesn't count ? I am saying it all counts and going by that Thor and Superman are comparable in terms of durability.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What am I saying doesn't count ? I am saying it all counts and going by that Thor and Superman are comparable in terms of durability.

I'm talking about how you're dismissing an interview when it doesn't help your case, and clinging to one when it does.

Can you say, "Hypocrite?" Here, I'll help. "Hip-Oh-Crit."

Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm talking about how you're dismissing an interview when it doesn't help your case, and clinging to one when it does.

Can you say, "Hypocrite?" Here, I'll help. "Hip-Oh-Crit."

The interview doesn't help your case either. Bendis doesn't answer the question so we go by what we see on panel. MM was defeated by the Void. Pretty simple, guy.

Loki also planned to be killed by Void. That kind of context is important.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He said it could be and it couldn't be. I have seen the interview. What we see on panel outweighs a writer's vagueness in an interview. I love how certain things count and certain things don't.

😛

It was pretty clear on panel that MM was being overpowered by Sentry at his own game... Pretty F'n impressive.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki also planned to be killed by Void. That kind of context is important.
Loki knew the Void had the power to easily do so. I don't see Superman displaying anywhere near this level of power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He said it could be and it couldn't be. I have seen the interview. What we see on panel outweighs a writer's vagueness in an interview. I love how certain things count and certain things don't.

Pity you don't apply that attitude in general.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pity you don't apply that attitude in general.
My examples are of a writer taking a stance. Bendis played it safe by not really answering the question. The only way he said Superman beats Doomsday is if he throws his morals/upbringing out the window. That rarely if ever happens.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My examples are of a writer taking a stance. Bendis played it safe by not really answering the question. The only way he said Superman beats Doomsday is if he throws his morals/upbringing out the window. That rarely if ever happens.

What would Bendis know about Superman?

I guess Superman wins if you mean the same series of events that happen to Thor happen to Superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What would Bendis know about Superman?
No, I am saying when I use the Jurgens example about Doomsday he answered the question. In the bendis example he did no such thing.
Originally posted by Deadline
I guess Superman wins if you mean the same series of events that happen to Thor happen to Superman.
I don't think that is the purpose of the thread. I think he is taking Void's mindset during siege and pitting him against just Superman with no help.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am saying when I use the Jurgens example about Doomsday he answered the question. In the bendis example he did no such thing. I don't think that is the purpose of the thread. I think he is taking Void's mindset during siege and pitting him against just Superman with no help.

It doesn't make a difference though. Writer intent can only be used to back up something on panel; not replace/contradict it.

Void wins.

I mean..what's Superman going to do him one on one, punch him? hv him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he is taking Void's mindset during siege and pitting him against just Superman with no help.

hahaha Superman loses.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It doesn't make a difference though. Writer intent can only be used to back up something on panel; not replace/contradict it.
His intent wasn't contradicted on panel. The reason Superman is at a disadvantage goes along the lines of his moral code/upbringing. It's always been a weakness for him. In OWAW Superman going all out he was matching Doomsday.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His intent wasn't contradicted on panel. The reason Superman is at a disadvantage goes along the lines of his moral code/upbringing. It's always been a weakness for him. In OWAW Superman going all out he was matching Doomsday.

That's not the instance I was referring to, even if I disagree.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not the instance I was referring to, even if I disagree.
Are you referring to hp Superman's interactions with Doomsday ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you referring to hp Superman's interactions with Doomsday ?

I was talking about writers in general.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I was talking about writers in general.
I guess we disagree. I tend to just take writer's words on their own stories I wouldn't use jurgens opinion based off of how he thinks Thor/Superman would go down.