Originally posted by cdtm
Do you think he could dent primary adamantium?Cap's shield is supposed to be even more durable.
Yes, and he has.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
1. No2. No
Capt's shield has only been damaged or destroyed 4. times. If i am correct
1. King Thor using the Odinpower to amp Mjolnir
2. King Thor 'eyes beams
3. The Seprent at the peak of his power
4. The beyonder.
And guess what they are all more powerful then WBH can dream
Well actually it's been at least 5 times (Thanos with the IG turned it to dust with a casual strike). The Hulk would be able to dent it, because the shield has been measured up, and it is not indestructible.
Originally posted by StoicTo date the weakest attack to dent the sheild is a Super poed Thor amping withing the Odinpower and using Mjolnir. WBH doesn't come close to that power. IF anything Hulk breaks his own hand
Yes, and he has.Well actually it's been at least 5 times (Thanos with the IG turned it to dust with a casual strike). The Hulk would be able to dent it, because the shield has been measured up, and it is not indestructible.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
To date the weakest attack to dent the sheild is a Super poed Thor amping withing the Odinpower and using Mjolnir. WBH doesn't come close to that power. IF anything Hulk breaks his own hand
The Hulk has infinite strength potential, the shield has a breaking point, this should be simple to figure out. The Hulk can output the amount of strength that it would take to dent the shield simply because he has no limit, and the shield does. Do you even know how powerful WB Hulk was? If not you might think twice about making claims about how powerful he was.
Originally posted by StoicThe only way hulk would ever get strong enough to break caps shield is if marvel decided to go through with the abstract of rage angle and made hulk a cosmic.
The Hulk has infinite strength potential, the shield has a breaking point, this should be simple to figure out. The Hulk can output the amount of strength that it would take to dent the shield simply because he has no limit, and the shield does. Do you even know how powerful WB Hulk was? If not you might think twice about making claims about how powerful he was.
Good thing legions of death threats prevented that from happening.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
The only way hulk would ever get strong enough to break caps shield is if marvel decided to go through with the abstract of rage angle and made hulk a cosmic.Good thing legions of death threats prevented that from happening.
The funny thing here is that the Hulk is as much cosmic as any character powered by solar energy is, and it doesn't take an abstract level being to dent America's Shield. Before stating things like you just did, you need to have payed close attention to the past 5 years of character development that was done on the Hulk.
This is not the Savage Hulk that needs days to ramp up in strength, but a Hulk that ramped up in minutes to possess enough power to obliterate a planet without even touching it, ant that was the least amount of damage done on panel, he may have destroyed a solar system with the help of Betty.
Just to humor you
Well, lets assume the Solar System is sphere and its boundary is the oort cloud, that would mean approximately 3,296,159,650,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth's can fit inside the Solar System.
That is 3.2 billion-billion-billion Earth's.
Do you think Hulk is that strong? Do you? Seriously?
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Im not sure you understand the magnitude of difference between planet and solor system.
I'm not sure that you realize that the Hulk may have destroyed far more than a planet. Tell me something, can you quantify exactly how powerful WB Hulk was? If not there is more weight to side with the Hulk having the power to dent the shield that has been broken in the past that the weight that says he can not. The most pressing fact is this. Nowhere did it ever state that the Hulk was near his limit, at his limit, or had a limit to just how much more powerful he could have gotten.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Just to humor youWell, lets assume the Solar System is sphere and its boundary is the oort cloud, that would mean approximately 3,296,159,650,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth's can fit inside the Solar System.
That is 3.2 billion-billion-billion Earth's.
Do you think Hulk is that strong? Do you? Seriously?
How many planets do you actually believe are in an actual solar system? The number you brought up is ridiculous in its scope because no solar system has that many planets within it. What I said was that for all we know, he could have destroyed every planet within a solar system, and if that was not what I said, it was certainly what I meant.
Also what the hell does that number have to do with the integrity of America's Shield? Do you really believe that the Shield is that strong? Do you really?
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not sure that you realize that the Hulk may have destroyed far more than a planet. Tell me something, can you quantify exactly how powerful WB Hulk was? If not there is more weight to side with the Hulk having the power to dent the shield that has been broken in the past that the weight that says he can not. The most pressing fact is this. Nowhere did it ever state that the Hulk was near his limit, at his limit, or had a limit to just how much more powerful he could have gotten.
Firstly. Hulk had help and can be attributed no more than half the energy of the feat.
Second. "May have". Stick to whats on the page. They destroyed a planet and a few moons.
Third. It is fallacious logic to assume he is not near his limit because it didnt say he was. You have no idea. You are asserting your interpretation as fact.
Originally posted by Stoic
How many planets do you actually believe are in an actual solar system? The number you brought up is ridiculous in its scope because no solar system has that many planets within it. What I said was that for all we know, he could have destroyed every planet within a solar system, and if that was not what I said, it was certainly what I meant.
Its the same amount of energy weather the space is full or empty.
Also what the hell does that number have to do with the integrity of America's Shield? Do you really believe that the Shield is that strong? Do you really?
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Firstly. Hulk had help and can be attributed no more than half the energy of the feat.Second. "May have". Stick to whats on the page. They destroyed a planet and a few moons.
Third. It is fallacious logic to assume he is not near his limit because it didnt say he was. You have no idea. You are asserting your interpretation as fact.
Didn't I bring up Betty in the feat? Ok
Did you see anything out in space during the aftermath of the collision? Well if you saw nothing, then it can just as easily be interpreted as everything was destroyed.
The Beyonder on panel stated that the Hulk was an infinite power. if you're bent on unraveling comic book history you should take it up with the writer, because from what I have read time and again about the Hulk is that he has no upper limit to his strength.
Back to what matters. The shield is not indestructible, if you don't believe that he can, despite the idea that he has no upper limit to his strength, and yet the Shield has an upper limit to it's durability rating, that has been seen 5 times at the very least, then go on believing. However more evidence points to the Hulk being able to at the very least dent it.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
It has nothing to do with caps shield I was refering to you "derp hulk blew up a solar system" comment. But. If we go by feats actually it has a far better chance of being that strong than hulk does of breaking it if we go by the level of being required to damage it. Considering sky-father level being are galaxy busters.
Once again. Can you quantify just how strong the Hulk was? Yes or No?