Hulk vs Cap´s Shield

Originally posted by Stoic
Didn't I bring up Betty in the feat? Ok

This is not the Savage Hulk that needs days to ramp up in strength, but a Hulk that ramped up in minutes to possess enough power to obliterate a planet without even touching it, ant that was the least amount of damage done on panel, he may have destroyed a solar system with the help of Betty.

And even then you never stated that she infact did contribute half of the energy, which could be considered dishonest debating practices.

Did you see anything out in space during the aftermath of the collision? Well if you saw nothing, then it can just as easily be interpreted as everything was destroyed.

Yes. You can clearly see stars int he background between the debris from the one planet. STOP ****ING WANKING

The Beyonder on panel stated that the Hulk was an infinite power. if you're bent on unraveling comic book history you should take it up with the writer, because from what I have read time and again about the Hulk is that he has no upper limit to his strength.

back to what matters. The shield is not indestructible, if you don't believe that he can, despite the idea that he has no upper limit to his strength, and yet the Shield has an upper limit that has been seen 5 times at the very least, then go on believing. However more evidence points to the Hulk being able to at the very least dent it.

1. Sentry
2. Zues
3. Betty
4. Thor

There are probably more but that is just off the top of my head.

Originally posted by Stoic
Once again. Can you quantify just how strong the Hulk was? Yes or No?

If you want me to give you an exact figure then yeah I could.

And you point the finger at me and say dishonest debating practices?

If you have a problem understanding what I wrote, and you feel a need to twist it so that you can come out on top, or feel like you did than fine. You're wrong, but I have no time for childish games.

Did you say stars could be seen? Would that make it an entirely different solar system? What did I say? Did I not say that from all we know, he could have been outputting enough power to have destroyed an entire solar system, as in singular? Did I say anything about a universe?

You may want to go back and read my every post in this thread, because I included Betty. If you believe that I am wanking the Hulk then, again it's simply your opinion, which means very little to me, or this thread. Try to stay on the subject. I don't believe that you are capable of this small task, but give it a shot.

Again, can you or can you not, quantify just how powerful the Hulk was? You can't so stop lying. Actually I have a better idea, let's agree to disagree, because I have little to no patience for people who twist the truth for little to no gain. Now you need to go and look into your mirror, and repeat these words.

"I simply can't believe the depths that I will stoop to, to simply prove a point, even though everything that I am saying is bullsh1t".

Wait a minute is this about the shot of Umar standing on a rock that is nearly completely obscured by dust and debris.Also they were shot of the sky through out that comic that didn't show they were any other planets besides the one they were on.

Originally posted by Stoic
And you point the finger at me and say dishonest debating practices?

If you have a problem understanding what I wrote, and you feel a need to twist it so that you can come out on top, or feel like you did than fine. You're wrong, but I have no time for childish games.

Did you say stars could be seen? Would that make it an entirely different solar system? What did I say? Did I not say that from all we know, he could have been outputting enough power to have destroyed an entire solar system, as in singular? Did I say anything about a universe?

You may want to go back and read my every post in this thread, because I included Betty. If you believe that I am wanking the Hulk then, again it's simply your opinion, which means very little to me, or this thread. Try to stay on the subject. I don't believe that you are capable of this small task, but give it a shot.

Again, can you or can you not, quantify just how powerful the Hulk was? You can't so stop lying. Actually I have a better idea, let's agree to disagree, because I have little to no patience for people who twist the truth for little to no gain. Now you need to go and look into your mirror, and repeat these words.

"I simply can't believe the depths that I will stoop to, to simply prove a point, even though everything that I am saying is bullsh1t".

I dont feel like sectioning this off so ill just son you all at once.

1. Your back pedaling. Its unbecoming
2. Considering you never see the star for the solar system the planet is on you cant make that argument. The planet could easily have a plutonian style orbit. Any on of the stars in the background have a legitimate chance of being the star of that solar system where as there is zero evidence. Zero. That hulk destroyed anything outside of the planet and a few moons
3. It would take about 2.2 x 10^33 joules to bow up the planet and moons assuming they are a similar distance to our own

so divide that in half and you get hulk's contribution of 1.1 x 10 ^33 joules which is 2.6 ^23 tons of TNT or 260 zetta tons

The rest of your post is just shit. But seeing as how its you that is posting it I cant say I could expect better.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk has infinite strength potential, the shield has a breaking point, this should be simple to figure out. The Hulk can output the amount of strength that it would take to dent the shield simply because he has no limit, and the shield does. Do you even know how powerful WB Hulk was? If not you might think twice about making claims about how powerful he was.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The Hulk doesn't have infinte strength. WBH is supposed to be the max. THe Odinpower has destroyed galaxies and that is the min. force we seen damge the sheild So you are saying that WBH is at galxy busting strength???

Don't say things that you don't know. It was never stated that the Hulk could not have gotten stronger during HOTM. Also you may want to rethink using beings of abstract power or Sky Father level characters as a benchmark to weigh out how much it would take to destroy the shield. If you have proof that the Hulk of HOTM was at his max when he collided with Betty, why was he seen later in the same arc with even more power?

CA: Ha! Fin Fang Foom shooting nuclear missiles out of his mouth, no less!

GP: And Umar. Just love that character. I thought what Giffen, Dematteis and Maguire did with her in the Defenders: Indefensible mini was hilarious. And it was clearly time for the Worldbreaker to actually break a world.

Read More: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/08/31/greg-pak-incredible-hulk-exit-interview/#ixzz1qwWwCs1u

The Hulk isn't destroying Cap's shield.

WBH let alone WWH would rip this sh** in half with no trouble.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The Hulk doesn't have infinte strength. WBH is supposed to be the max. THe Odinpower has destroyed galaxies and that is the min. force we seen damge the sheild So you are saying that WBH is at galxy busting strength???

He was still growing in power. Saying that WBH was his limit when we see him growing a 1000 ft tall because of extra radiation is ignoring the character potential.

IMO WBH can definitely dent it significantly. People are overestimating the strength of Cap's shield. It's not even that thick.

Classic, no ****ing chance maybe a few dents at best. Current if it is only made of vibraium and uru well he should have alot better chance.

Originally posted by h1a8
IMO WBH can definitely dent it significantly. People are overestimating the strength of Cap's shield. It's not even that thick.

Superman is thinner than the Hulk, so the Hulk must be far stronger than he is.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The Hulk doesn't have infinte strength. WBH is supposed to be the max.

Theres no max to hulks strength, where did you hear that from?

Pre recton beyonder said himself there was No upper limit to hulks strength potential.

Hulk definitely dents it

shield........

Originally posted by DarkOdin
1. No

2. No

Capt's shield has only been damaged or destroyed 4. times. If i am correct

1. King Thor using the Odinpower to amp Mjolnir

2. King Thor 'eyes beams

3. The Seprent at the peak of his power

4. The beyonder.

And guess what they are all more powerful then WBH can dream

Anyway, was it actually stated/shown that KT amped Mjolnir with the Odinpower when he dented the shield?

IIRC, Mjolnir was glowing with energy at the time.

I don't think so...

WBH can dent it. WWH....no.