Hulk vs Cap´s Shield

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DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Doom /w/ Beyonder's power as well.

The only instance that makes me think WBH could damage the shield in some way/shape/form is the fact that KT dented it with a strike from Mjolnir. IIRC, it wasn't stated/depicted that anything aside from sheer brute force went into the strike (ie. it didn't seem like he empowered Mjolnir with the OF.)

I would need to double check but i think Mjolnir was glowing red when Thor was attacking. Cap which would show he was using the Odinpower

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Sin I AM
did u read WWH? they both reverted back to human form....depowered
horrible "logic'

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
Ok so by your own admission, Thor was not exactly using as much of the Odin Force as Odin would be, right?

This is the incorrect part. King Thor know how to amp he attacks and use energy blast just as good as Odin. However is wasn't aware how to use the Odinpower for other things creating world's bring people back to life the more exotic abilites of the Odin power. He also wasn't aware how how strong the Odinpower was more likely to put too much power into his blows then to hold back. Given the Odinpower feats I think we could all argue it wouldn't take all of the odinpower to dent the sheild heck a little eye beam action vaporised it.

So if the Odinpower can vaporise it on its own

the Mjolnir blow was weaker in comparsion.

But either IMO is still more the WBH has shown IMO

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkOdin
I would need to double check but i think Mjolnir was glowing red when Thor was attacking. Cap which would show he was using the Odinpower
it was too late to edit....Anyway Looking back to the arc Thor just defeated Iron Man in the Thor bust armor. He was absorbing the power Iron was using to power the armor at the time . We see a red glow coming out of Iron man as Thor says this. Then we see Thor attack Cap and dent the sheild the same glow of the power being drained from Ironman suit we see coming out of Mjolnir's swing even after he hits Cap. KNow can anyone confirm that Iron man was using the Odinpower to power his armor???

Sin I AM Madame Mort
Originally posted by psycho gundam
horrible "logic'

so they werent reverted back to human form?

Stoic Avenger
Originally posted by DarkOdin
it was too late to edit....Anyway Looking back to the arc Thor just defeated Iron Man in the Thor bust armor. He was absorbing the power Iron was using to power the armor at the time . We see a red glow coming out of Iron man as Thor says this. Then we see Thor attack Cap and dent the sheild the same glow of the power being drained from Ironman suit we see coming out of Mjolnir's swing even after he hits Cap. KNow can anyone confirm that Iron man was using the Odinpower to power his armor???

How would Ironman possess the Odin Force? I am really doubting this route, and thinking that outside of the material used to create the Thor Buster armor, that Stark used the same means to power the suit that he does in his other suits. Are you saying that the power that Ironman had going for him in the Thor Buster even came close to rivaling the power that WB Hulk was toting?

ctsketch Senior Member
Originally posted by Stoic
How would Ironman possess the Odin Force? I am really doubting this route, and thinking that outside of the material used to create the Thor Buster armor, that Stark used the same means to power the suit that he does in his other suits. Are you saying that the power that Ironman had going for him in the Thor Buster even came close to rivaling the power that WB Hulk was toting?

Iron man was using an Asgardian gem that Thor gave him to power the suit no?

Stoic Avenger
Originally posted by ctsketch
Iron man was using an Asgardian gem that Thor gave him to power the suit no?

Oh yeah forgot about that. Still aside from what it had within it, did it impress upon you that it was putting out more power than the Hulk was? This is what I have been saying all along, titles, and fancy looking things need to be taken apart and analyzed for what they were capable of, and what they had done. I have my doubts (huge doubts) that WB Hulk would shatter the shield, but I do believe that he could rumple it. It took him less than 10 seconds according to on panel evidence to ramp up enough strength to over power an explosion that would have turned Sakaar into the same mess that Krypton looked like.

This thread gives him 20 minutes if I am correct? That shield is going to be rumpled at the very least.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by ctsketch
Iron man was using an Asgardian gem that Thor gave him to power the suit no?
Correct I just don't remember it has been so long however if i remember right. Thor created the Gems with the Odinpower then stark used 1 of the gems to power the Thorbuster armor which also was being further powered by absorbing/feeding of the Odinpower as the battle was wage if i remember correct.

Stoic Avenger
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Correct I just don't remember it has been so long however if i remember right. Thor created the Gems with the Odinpower then stark used 1 of the gems to power the Thorbuster armor which also was being further powered by absorbing/feeding of the Odinpower as the battle was wage if i remember correct.

None of that really matters, as Thor reached the Shields damage threshold and surpassed it. The Hulk in world breaking mode, and given 20 minutes to amplify his strength would surpass it as well. it did not take him and Betty 20 minutes to turn a planet into vapor.

DarkOdin Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
None of that really matters, as Thor reached the Shields damage threshold and surpassed it. The Hulk in world breaking mode, and given 20 minutes to amplify his strength would surpass it as well. it did not take him and Betty 20 minutes to turn a planet into vapor.
Ya but honestly a planet's durability is way less then the shield heck Gladaitor and BRB wrecked planets and i don't see either of them hurting the shield.

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Ya but honestly a planet's durability is way less then the shield heck Gladaitor and BRB wrecked planets and i don't see either of them hurting the shield.
Plus, "What if?" rule should apply. It was another dimension. For all we know, the objects in that dimension were made out of a "Marshmallow Base".

Should not be applied to 616 real-space.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Ya but honestly a planet's durability is way less then the shield heck Gladaitor and BRB wrecked planets and i don't see either of them hurting the shield.

Hulk destroyed it in a different more impressive matter while taking out one being that defeated Surfer, another being that over powered Thor and another being that stalemated/defeated Savage Hulk. Can't get any clearer than this. Especially him taking out a Fing Fang Foom that Doctor Strange couldn't stop. He killed all of these people, a planet and two moons without even touching them...hell, the shockwaves from Hulks punches was sending these high tier being flying.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Hulks%20limits/IncredibleHulks634021.jpg

Can't get any clearer than this. Hulk was in a different tier all together.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Horrificus
Plus, "What if?" rule should apply. It was another dimension. For all we know, the objects in that dimension were made out of a "Marshmallow Base".

Should not be applied to 616 real-space.

Naah, its a real planet...stated on panel too many times as being a planet of significant size.

carver9 Senior Member

By the way, Bill destroyed a planetoid and Gladiator had to repeatedly punch the planet to destroy it. Hulk didn't even have to lay a glove on the planet to destroy it.

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk destroyed it in a different more impressive matter while taking out one being that defeated Surfer, another being that over powered Thor and another being that stalemated/defeated Savage Hulk. Can't get any clearer than this. Especially him taking out a Fing Fang Foom that Doctor Strange couldn't stop. He killed all of these people, a planet and two moons without even touching them...hell, the shockwaves from Hulks punches was sending these high tier being flying.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Marvel%20Comics/Hulks%20limits/IncredibleHulks634021.jpg

Can't get any clearer than this. Hulk was in a different tier all together.

Did anybody actually check, to see if those characters were the real deal, or just regular people wearing a bibeast and wendigo costume? 🙄

Come on Carver. That's funny!

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Horrificus
Did anybody actually check, to see if those characters were the real deal, or just regular people wearing a bibeast and wendigo costume? 🙄

Come on Carver. That's funny!

Lol.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Question: who is Tyrannus?

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Question: who is Tyrannus?

Lol...Joke?

Horrificus Senior Member

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Question: who is Tyrannus?
Jake... Say it ain't so!
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