Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah, the problem is that in order for Doom to lose, you would have to basically ignore the attributes that make Doom the character that he is.It is kind of like saying that Nova cannot use World Mind, or Flight.
The character, Doctor Doom, has enough experience and intelligence and existing prep to be ready for everything on Nova's list.
I'm not sure that I'm getting at what you mean. It seems to me that you're essentially saying that "Doom wins because he's Doom". And while I wholeheartedly agree that he's a badass, ultimately that's not how we debate here.
To your second point, Flight etc are attributes of Nova's power-set, but they aren't what makes Nova Nova. Hell even the WM doesn't make make or break Nova, as Rider has proven even it wrong on a few occasions. What makes Rich tick is his tactical mind, his never say die attitude and his propensity to command respect. Even from his enemies.
I think this sequence says it all for me
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/picsay-1333144866.jpg
http://db.tt/kUdNQAiF
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc513/dmills31/1333144937649.jpg
Now that's respect.
All that said, my position is simply that the match (random encounter, .5 km apart, genera knowledge etc) favors Nova imo. I just don't think he'd beat Rider at his own game, namely, a blasting contest, quick cqb etc.