Originally posted by carver9
Did you see the fight between Doctor Poloris vs the JLA? If you didnt, well, during the fight it was discovered that Martian Manhunter blood is FULL of Iron and Doctor Poloris was bleeding him out. Magneto is the worst person he could face...he would literally rip him to shreds. Magneto main attack is attacking your blood flow and that would be a downfall for MM.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Context carver, context. Polaris was amped by earth's magnetic field and was changing earth's magnetic poles by moving his legs. Magneto isn't that powerfull.
Actually, he really is that powerful. Read on if you'd like.
Powers and abilities
Magneto is a mutant with the power to manipulate the Earth's electromagnetic fields to achieve a wide range of effects.
The primary application of his power is control over magnetism and the manipulation of metal - ferrous and nonferrous. He can affect a very large quantity of metal at one time. For example, he has levitated objects as heavy as a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine and has used his power to move large asteroids several times. The maximum amount of mass that he can manipulate at one time is unknown, but his powers extend into the subatomic fields as evidenced during the Secret Wars, when he pulled ambient molecules of metal out of the surrounding atmosphere into a metal comb for Janet Van Dyne, and the dozens of times he has been shown to assembled his costume out of metallic molecules pulled from the surrounding air and environment.[volume & issue needed] He can manipulate a large number of individual metal objects simultaneously and has assembled complex machinery with his powers. He can also affect non-metallic and non-magnetic objects to a lesser extent and frequently levitates himself and others.
Another way in which Magneto frequently uses his power is the projection of force-fields which selectively block out matter and energy. These fields are strong enough to withstand the detonation of multiple thermonuclear weapons; hence Magneto is invulnerable to most harm when surrounded by his shield and can survive in deep space thanks to it.
Magneto can also channel his powers through his own body to increase his strength and durability far beyond human limits and has a baseline reaction time 15 times shorter than that of regular humans.
On occasion he has altered the behavior of gravitational fields around him, which has been suggested as evidence of the existence of a unified field which he can manipulate.
He can also generate electromagnetic pulses of great strength and generate and manipulate electromagnetic energy down to photons. He can turn invisible by warping visible light around his body.[74]
Although Magneto has been shown capable of manipulating matter on a subatomic level (insofar as the electromagnetic force is responsible for chemical bonding), the use of his powers in this way seems to be difficult for him, and he has not been frequently depicted as doing so.
He has demonstrated the capacity to produce a wormhole and to safely teleport himself and others via the wormhole.[75] His powers have also demonstrated that he can condense planetary objects into subatomic size.[volume & issue needed]
He is also regularly seen "flying". In Uncanny X-Men #150, his costume is shown to be made of a metal mesh, allowing him to manipulate it into "flying".[76] In the original Secret Wars series it has been explained as Magneto pushing the metallic minerals in the ground away from him, allowing him to fly.[volume & issue needed]
Magneto has been consistently and frequently depicted as able to resist all but the strongest or most unexpected of telepathic attacks. A number of explanations have been proposed for his unusually strong resistance to telepathy, among them: (a) technology wired into his helmet (the explanation given in the X-Men film series and several comic plotlines), (b) some physical aspect of his electromagnetic powers that can interfere with telepathy (he once used the Earth's magnetic field to dampen the powers of all telepaths within his reach), (c) latent telepathic powers of his own or (d) sheer force of will (cf. X-Men Vol. 2 #2). The theme of latent telepathic powers has been explored in a number of stories, among them the Secret Wars limited series. In some of his earliest appearances, Magneto was depicted as capable of engaging in astral projection. He has also, on rare occasions, been shown reading other's dreams, issuing telepathic commands, and probing the minds of others.[77] He has demonstrated the ability to shield his mind, while in intense meditation, so completely that even Emma Frost was not able to read his thoughts, despite being directly in front of him and actively attempting to do so.[65]
In addition to his powers, Magneto has many other skills. He is a genius with competence in various fields of advanced science, especially in genetic manipulation, particle physics, engineering, and other fields of technology. He has engineered advanced weaponry, space stations, superpowered humanoid lifeforms, devices that generate volcanoes and earthquakes, devices that block telepathy, and devices that can nullify all mutant powers except for his own. He has reconstructed computerized devices from memory. He is fluent in many human languages and once single-handedly deciphered the unknown language of a lost civilization.[78] He possesses extraordinary skill in "reading" the microexpressions on others' faces and sensing what they are thinking and feeling, whether they are lying, fearful, etc. a skill which he refers to as "taking your enemy's measure."[79] He also is a master strategist and tactician with extensive combat experience, and has often been successful in single-handed combat against entire groups of superhuman adversaries. He also has some military training in hand-to-hand combat and has been shown to be effective with his fists, but he prefers to use his powers when in combat situations.
Originally posted by Stoic
Actually, he really is that powerful. Read on if you'd like.Powers and abilities
Magneto is a mutant with the power to manipulate the Earth's electromagnetic fields to achieve a wide range of effects.
The primary application of his power is control over magnetism and the manipulation of metal - ferrous and nonferrous. He can affect a very large quantity of metal at one time. For example, he has levitated objects as heavy as a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine and has used his power to move large asteroids several times. The maximum amount of mass that he can manipulate at one time is unknown, but his powers extend into the subatomic fields as evidenced during the Secret Wars, when he pulled ambient molecules of metal out of the surrounding atmosphere into a metal comb for Janet Van Dyne, and the dozens of times he has been shown to assembled his costume out of metallic molecules pulled from the surrounding air and environment.[volume & issue needed] He can manipulate a large number of individual metal objects simultaneously and has assembled complex machinery with his powers. He can also affect non-metallic and non-magnetic objects to a lesser extent and frequently levitates himself and others.
Another way in which Magneto frequently uses his power is the projection of force-fields which selectively block out matter and energy. These fields are strong enough to withstand the detonation of multiple thermonuclear weapons; hence Magneto is invulnerable to most harm when surrounded by his shield and can survive in deep space thanks to it.
Magneto can also channel his powers through his own body to increase his strength and durability far beyond human limits and has a baseline reaction time 15 times shorter than that of regular humans.
On occasion he has altered the behavior of gravitational fields around him, which has been suggested as evidence of the existence of a unified field which he can manipulate.
He can also generate electromagnetic pulses of great strength and generate and manipulate electromagnetic energy down to photons. He can turn invisible by warping visible light around his body.[74]
Although Magneto has been shown capable of manipulating matter on a subatomic level (insofar as the electromagnetic force is responsible for chemical bonding), the use of his powers in this way seems to be difficult for him, and he has not been frequently depicted as doing so.
He has demonstrated the capacity to produce a wormhole and to safely teleport himself and others via the wormhole.[75] His powers have also demonstrated that he can condense planetary objects into subatomic size.[volume & issue needed]
He is also regularly seen "flying". In Uncanny X-Men #150, his costume is shown to be made of a metal mesh, allowing him to manipulate it into "flying".[76] In the original Secret Wars series it has been explained as Magneto pushing the metallic minerals in the ground away from him, allowing him to fly.[volume & issue needed]
Magneto has been consistently and frequently depicted as able to resist all but the strongest or most unexpected of telepathic attacks. A number of explanations have been proposed for his unusually strong resistance to telepathy, among them: (a) technology wired into his helmet (the explanation given in the X-Men film series and several comic plotlines), (b) some physical aspect of his electromagnetic powers that can interfere with telepathy (he once used the Earth's magnetic field to dampen the powers of all telepaths within his reach), (c) latent telepathic powers of his own or (d) sheer force of will (cf. X-Men Vol. 2 #2). The theme of latent telepathic powers has been explored in a number of stories, among them the Secret Wars limited series. In some of his earliest appearances, Magneto was depicted as capable of engaging in astral projection. He has also, on rare occasions, been shown reading other's dreams, issuing telepathic commands, and probing the minds of others.[77] He has demonstrated the ability to shield his mind, while in intense meditation, so completely that even Emma Frost was not able to read his thoughts, despite being directly in front of him and actively attempting to do so.[65]
In addition to his powers, Magneto has many other skills. He is a genius with competence in various fields of advanced science, especially in genetic manipulation, particle physics, engineering, and other fields of technology. He has engineered advanced weaponry, space stations, superpowered humanoid lifeforms, devices that generate volcanoes and earthquakes, devices that block telepathy, and devices that can nullify all mutant powers except for his own. He has reconstructed computerized devices from memory. He is fluent in many human languages and once single-handedly deciphered the unknown language of a lost civilization.[78] He possesses extraordinary skill in "reading" the microexpressions on others' faces and sensing what they are thinking and feeling, whether they are lying, fearful, etc. a skill which he refers to as "taking your enemy's measure."[79] He also is a master strategist and tactician with extensive combat experience, and has often been successful in single-handed combat against entire groups of superhuman adversaries. He also has some military training in hand-to-hand combat and has been shown to be effective with his fists, but he prefers to use his powers when in combat situations.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I know fully well what magnus is capable of, you don't have to reference wikipedia for it. He isn't powerful enough to change earth's magnetic poles by dancing. In that comic polaris was the south pole of earth.
It says that he can condense planetary objects, this means that he does possess enough power to do what Polaris did to J'onn, and Diana. I'm not arguing who is more powerful between Polaris and Magneto, as this is not really about him. Polaris was used to show that Diana and J'onn would be highly affected by someone of Magneto's power set. Magneto would be to these two as the Silver Surfer would be to the Savage Hulk. He would effectively shut them down.
well i think the key here is that we know that mm's blood is richer in iron then a normal human's, so Mag's isn't a great match up for him. w/o the blitz im going with mags over mm.( never thought i'd say that)
He could still blitz him i guess (which is dc's usual advantage)...I normally would think mm would stomp magneto w/o the blood attack.
Originally posted by Stoic
It says that he can condense planetary objects, this means that he does possess enough power to do what Polaris did to J'onn, and Diana. I'm not arguing who is more powerful between Polaris and Magneto, as this is not really about him. Polaris was used to show that Diana and J'onn would be highly affected by someone of Magneto's power set. Magneto would be to these two as the Silver Surfer would be to the Savage Hulk. He would effectively shut them down.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Powerset isn't enough. Preboot Superboy has the same powerset as preboot superman but you wouldn't expect him to do things kal can do. When did eric condense planetery bodies?
Not the point. Magneto could stop this fight the minute it began, and unlike Superboy, he actually has several decades worth of feats. The idea that J'onn has more iron in his blood than a normal human speaks volumes, and Wonder Woman's bracers are easily manipulated by characters with Magneto's power set. Ultron would literally be able to sit this one out as Magneto toyed with them both. This is of course if the previous scan is not canon. he does not have to condense planetary mass to stomp here.
Originally posted by Stoic
Not the point. Magneto could stop this fight the minute it began, and unlike Superboy, he actually has several decades worth of feats. The idea that J'onn has more iron in his blood than a normal human speaks volumes, and Wonder Woman's bracers are easily manipulated by characters with Magneto's power set. Ultron would literally be able to sit this one out as Magneto toyed with them both. This is of course if the previous scan is not canon. he does not have to condense planetary mass to stomp here.