Originally posted by -Pr-
That's:a) piss poor writing
b) an exception to his usual portrayals, and really isn't valid on the forum.Like you've been told. More than once.
wonder woman =/= nightcrawler.
What's piss poor writing?
I agree, Wonder Woman doesn't equal nightcrawler but Magneto does have speed of his own.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Actually control over EM spectrum would theoretically give the person complete control over photons, with pretty much encompasses all forms light / energy / radiation. Polaris should have more power over a GL ring / construct than the GLs themselves.
You're going to sit there, and attempt to take away Magneto's powers? He can use shields, he has used them in the past, and in a forum setting would use them again. Wonder Woman isn't blizting through those shields.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are severaly overestimating magneto. J'onn can manipulate his molecules and remove iron from his blood altogether. That was shown only once in that comic only IIRC. Polaris also controlled a gl ring in that comic which should not happen. Again transferring feats from one character to another isn't allowed on KMC, no matter how similar. Your comparison of wolverine and j'onn is laughable.
Who said that Magneto was going to pull the iron out of J'onn, he could just hold him prisoner in his own body. What's laughable here is the underestimation that you are seeming to place on Magneto. It's not like Diana and J'onn are unbeatable, and with a character that controls metal, and many other things, they fall victim to his powers. Diana's entire battle armor is fashioned for Magneto to manipulate, and according to that book, J'onn has more iron in his blood than a human. You seem to want to deny what was written, but the comic holds more weight than a poster who did not write it into canon. If its canon, then J'onn and Diana are on the losing end of this deal, not to mention, Ultron is also there to pick up any loose change that may fall.
Originally posted by carver9
What's piss poor writing?I agree, Wonder Woman doesn't equal nightcrawler but Magneto does have speed of his own.
j'onn having iron in his blood that polaris could manipulate. anyone that's read other j'onn stuff would know that it was massive pis.
not on wonder woman's level. and nightcrawler was a BAD example.
Originally posted by carver9 Yes, I'm familiar with the later version of Poloris, not the 1960's and 70's versions. Are those versions even useable on the forum? Why bring them up?
because some of post crisis dr. polaris feats are comparable to pc. some of his best feats are post crisis. plus nobody clarified anyway.
Originally posted by -Pr-
j'onn having iron in his blood that polaris could manipulate. anyone that's read other j'onn stuff would know that it was massive pis.not on wonder woman's level. and nightcrawler was a BAD example.
Huh? How is that PIS? His blood is rich with Iron which could be true for a Martian. Is there any other showing contradicting this? I don't get why you are calling that PIS.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
because some of post crisis dr. polaris feats are comparable to pc. some of his best feats are post crisis. plus nobody clarified anyway.
I'm not calling Poloris a weakling, I'm just saying Magneto is above him. It's nothing wrong with being below Mags, he is a natural, bonified, team buster.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's against entire gl mythos where once polaris amped by an entire dimension's magnetic energies couldn't control hal's ring. Thatissueentire crossover was=shit
I'm just saying what should happen on paper, not would happen in a comic. Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces of the Universe, having dominion over EM should be a god like ability. By virtue of being a form of energy... Magneto / Polaris / Whoever, should have control over GL constructs. There is a reason why Xavier said that Magneto is potentially more powerful than the Phoenix force.
Originally posted by carver9
Huh? How is that PIS? His blood is rich with Iron which could be true for a Martian. Is there any other showing contradicting this? I don't get why you are calling that PIS.
But it isn't, and yes, there is: his entire solo series. J'onn has complete molecular control over his own body. Him having iron at ALL is either PIS/CIS, or just plain retarded.
I can't believe you'd argue this with some of the claims you've already made in this thread.
Originally posted by carver9
My point was to show that MM is full or Iron.When has MM removed Iron from his blood? Scans.
No one is comparing Jonn and Wolverine...wtf.
You screamed out Poloris high end fts so I screamed back at you. No one said that was Mags consistent portrayal but if you wanted to go on a ft war, I didn't mind.
Originally posted by Stoic
You're going to sit there, and attempt to take away Magneto's powers? He can use shields, he has used them in the past, and in a forum setting would use them again. Wonder Woman isn't blizting through those shields.Who said that Magneto was going to pull the iron out of J'onn, he could just hold him prisoner in his own body. What's laughable here is the underestimation that you are seeming to place on Magneto. It's not like Diana and J'onn are unbeatable, and with a character that controls metal, and many other things, they fall victim to his powers. Diana's entire battle armor is fashioned for Magneto to manipulate, and according to that book, J'onn has more iron in his blood than a human. You seem to want to deny what was written, but the comic holds more weight than a poster who did not write it into canon. If its canon, then J'onn and Diana are on the losing end of this deal, not to mention, Ultron is also there to pick up any loose change that may fall.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Him having iron at ALL is either PIS/CIS, or just plain retarded.
Why? There is only a certain amount of elements that compose all of existence. Iron is a pretty big one... why would MM have NO iron in his body?
The human body is:
Oxygen (65%)
Carbon (18%)
Hydrogen (10%)
Nitrogen (3%)
Calcium (1.5%)
Phosphorus (1.0%)
Potassium (0.35%)
Sulfur (0.25%)
Sodium (0.15%)
Magnesium (0.05%)
Copper, Zinc, Selenium, Molybdenum, Fluorine, Chlorine, Iodine, Manganese, Cobalt, Iron (0.70%)
Lithium, Strontium, Aluminum, Silicon, Lead, Vanadium, Arsenic, Bromine (trace amounts)
Martian physiology is different... but there are only 90 some odd elements that exist in nature. It's pretty likely that MM would have iron in his body on some level, and if no iron than one of a dozen other magnetic elements.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm just saying what should happen on paper, not would happen in a comic. Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces of the Universe, having dominion over EM should be a god like ability. By virtue of being a form of energy... Magneto / Polaris / Whoever, should have control over GL constructs. There is a reason why Xavier said that Magneto is potentially more powerful than the Phoenix force.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not denying it either but theoraticaly and what happens in a comic aren't exactly equal.
Hence the rules and why we as a forum recognize the how a forum match between Captain Boomerang and the Flash, and a on panel comic fight between them are two different beasts. We suspend our disbelief when read comics for the sake of being entertained, those same rules don't apply on the forums though. For instance, Deathstroke might hold his own in a comic against Wonder Woman in h2h, and she might even say that Deathstroke is faster than she is... but he isn't, and we as a forum pretty much universally recognize that (unless it's the exact same situation only with Doomsday, then the mods flip flop all over the place like a fish out of water and close the thread if you disagree with them). 😎