Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Most of the Magneto victory plans in these threads are usually far more complex than they need to be. A simple - yet powerful - electromagnetic pulse should put anyone with biological functions into cardiac arrest.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hence the rules and why we as a forum recognize the how a forum match between Captain Boomerang and the Flash, and a on panel comic fight between them are two different beasts. We suspend our disbelief when read comics for the sake of being entertained, those same rules don't apply on the forums though. For instance, Deathstroke might hold his own in a comic against Wonder Woman in h2h, and she might even say that Deathstroke is faster than she is... but he isn't, and we as a forum pretty much universally recognize that (unless it's the exact same situation only with Doomsday, then the mods flip flop all over the place like a fish out of water and close the thread if you disagree with them). 😎
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are talking about a gal who is a magical clay golem given life by gods and a guy who recreated his whole body by a severed hand.
I was speaking generally. In this particular case Manhunter should be able to no sell it an EM pulse, Diana on the other hand is shit out of luck. She might have been made of mud, but she was turned flesh and blood when she was given life, she wasn't clay any more than Pinocchio was wood after he became a real boy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You taking potshots against someone who considers doomsday fast is so much full of irony that I don't have enough laughing emoticons considering some of the claims you've made.
What's the problem here? Do you know what the word irony means? 😉
Also... I'm all kinds of drunk right now, so I would view anything I've posted or will post with in two hours either side of this post, with in the context of that lens. lol
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I was speaking generally. In this particular case Manhunter should be able to no sell it an EM pulse, Diana on the other hand is shit out of luck. She might have been made of mud, but she was turned flesh and blood when she was given life, she wasn't clay any more than Pinocchio was wood after he became a real boy.
What's the problem here? Do you know what the word irony means? 😉
There is no problem here. Precisely.
Also... I'm all kinds of drunk right now, so I would view anything I've posted or will post with in two hours either side of this post, with in the context of that lens. lol
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, in your own comic world where you determine what should happen and how.
Apparently "my own comic world" is a synonym for a comic world governed by even a vague sense of realistic cohesive logic...
That is how those forces interact with biological functions... that's just how it is.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Apparently "my own comic world" is a synonym for a comic world governed by even a vague sense of realistic cohesive logic...That is how those forces interact with biological functions... that's just how it is.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then you should tell us the name of this comic company which publishes the comics based upon "your own comic world".
It's called the KMC rules. Read them. The rules govern which feats are and are not valid. If we didn't have than every thing that happens on panel would be equally valid, and there would be no sense of cohesion or continuity across comic lines. Otherwise it would be impossible to rationalize all the inconsistencies that take place. It's Christopher Lambert. There can be only one. Captain America can't one shot the Hulk, and also have extend fights with Daredevil. Both possibilities can't mutually exist and still make sense in a universe that fallows any sort of consistency, one contradiction must kill the other. That's why we have designations like PIS and the rest of the forum rules to help us construct one single cohesive picture of a character devoid of the inherent contradictions of the comic medium.
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There are differences between comic fights, and forum fights. If there wasn't then Hulk would be a legit threat to Superman... because he would be in a comic.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
😎There are differences between comic fights, and forum fights. If there wasn't then Hulk would be a legit threat to Superman... because he would be in a comic.
Yes and Wolverine would be a threat to Iron Fist, but thankfully we know its not true in our logic comic setting.
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Originally posted by Stoic
Diana's entire battle armor is fashioned for Magneto to manipulate, and according to that book, J'onn has more iron in his blood than a human
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's:a) piss poor writing
b) an exception to his usual portrayals, and really isn't valid on the forum.Like you've been told. More than once.
I have to agree with Pr on this one. That was poor writing in my opinion. As far as I can remember, that is the only instance where Diana's armor was susceptible to magnetism. There are plenty of metals in the world that are not (gold and silver being among them). Diana's armor has defied real world chemistry enough times to allow me to call BS on that scene. And let's not forget, if the bracers retained their most recent origin, they aren't even metal!
I don't see Mags controlling either J'onn or Diana the way Polaris did. That's not to say that he can't take them down of course.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's called the KMC rules. Read them. The rules govern which feats are and are not valid. If we didn't have than every thing that happens on panel would be equally valid, and there would be no sense of cohesion or continuity across comic lines. Otherwise it would be impossible to rationalize all the inconsistencies that take place. It's Christopher Lambert. There can be only one. Captain America can't one shot the Hulk, and also have extend fights with Daredevil. Both possibilities can't mutually exist and still make sense in a universe that fallows any sort of consistency, one contradiction must kill the other. That's why we have designations like PIS and the rest of the forum rules to help us construct one single cohesive picture of a character devoid of the inherent contradictions of the comic medium.😎
There are differences between comic fights, and forum fights. If there wasn't then Hulk would be a legit threat to Superman... because he would be in a comic.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've read them, thank you very much. This isn't CBR where you can declare whatever you don't like as PIS. Characters in superman class durability laughs off lightning attacks which are essentialy an EMP. So all of these instances are PIS, right?
Maybe give them another read?
I never suggested that one could arbitrarily "declare whatever you don't like as PIS," but certain things need to culled in order to create a consistent portrait of a character and their abilities. Consider the forum version of the Flash... now consider how he is portrayed in comics. How often does the Flash wtf speed blitz everyone, vibrate through all incoming attacks and effortless defeat everyone put in front of him? Almost never... but that's what he does on KMC... because give what we know about his power set, that's what should happen. And that is the example that is flat out stated with in the rules on this site... from that you should be able to extrapolate how the rules work in the context of other characters and their powers.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe give them another read?I never suggested that one could arbitrarily "declare whatever you don't like as PIS," but certain things need to culled in order to create a consistent portrait of a character and their abilities. Consider the forum version of the Flash... now consider how he is portrayed in comics. How often does the Flash wtf speed blitz everyone, vibrate through all incoming attacks and effortless defeat everyone put in front of him? Almost never... but that's what he does on KMC... because give what we know about his power set, that's what should happen. And that is the example that is flat out stated with in the rules on this site... from that you should be able to extrapolate how the rules work in the context of other characters and their powers.
Haha logically....tasers would f*** Wolverine up something bad. They do not rely on pain, and there's nothing for the vaunted healing factor to heal.
So Batman should be able to take 10/10 against him with this tactic.
Yet, when I last asked srank about it, he casually laughed in my face about it!!
I guess its not PIS that Wolverine shrugs it off.....
Yes, I was butthurt about it. It was sore for days.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Haha logically....tasers would f*** Wolverine up something bad. They do not rely on pain, and there's nothing for the vaunted healing factor to heal.So Batman should be able to take 10/10 against him with this tactic.
Yet, when I last asked srank about it, he casually laughed in my face about it!!
I guess its not PIS that Wolverine shrugs it off.....
Yes, I was butthurt about it. It was sore for days.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention his vaunted "Wolverine clawz make anybody's durability null and void". Everytime anybody survives wolverine's claws its either glancing blows or PIS. Wolverine can't be knocked out by brute force as everytime he's been hit by a force larger than lets say spiderman his inner organs liquefy and heal instantly. I can go on and on about these but according to srank anybody who disagrees with him about these is automatically a wolverine hater and illogical to begin with.
Nah, I'm OK with that, as I can see it as part of his powerset. If you assume he has a HF, then yes, it makes sense that he can heal instantly internally.
But against a taser? They don't work like that. They don't incapacitate you by damaging your cells - they do it by interrupting and messing your electrical impulses up. Logically, those with larger muscles etc and more muscle mass should suffer more. There's nothing to heal, and nothing to resist - as long as a taser is being kept connected to Wolverine, he should be on the floor jerking around and seizing up.
Originally posted by Estacado
MM's phasing wont do much here since Erik was able to remove Kitty from that bullet while she was phased.
Also even if they shut down Ultron Mags culd just restart him.
