Thor vs Superman-HTH

Started by JakeTheBank20 pages

Originally posted by jalek moye
Do you think sticking to the same style of fighting for a million years will really have a noticeable more effect than a thousand? That's more then enough time to know all your going to know outside of someone teaching you something completely foreign to you.

This isn't really a comment about how much of an effect superman's asgard feasts have on him. But a question on where you see someone like Thor's experience mattering against anyone that is also uber long lived. IMO experiance only matters up to a certain point

I think the "thousand years in Asgard thing" is a bit of a misnomer as far as Superman is concerned anyway, tbh. It's been thrown around the forum often as means to legitimately argue he has millenia of fighting experience and that it would place him on the same level as someone like Thor or Hercules or Wonder Woman. It's clear it's not mentioned often or has become an intergral part of his character. It's canon, but it makes as much sense to me as trying to use Thor summoning anti-matter to obliterate someone or absorbing galactic level explosions as the norm. A random one off feat shouldn't get the kind of leeway it does.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Do you think sticking to the same style of fighting for a million years will really have a noticeable more effect than a thousand? That's more then enough time to know all your going to know outside of someone teaching you something completely foreign to you.

This isn't really a comment about how much of an effect superman's asgard feasts have on him. But a question on where you see someone like Thor's experience mattering against anyone that is also uber long lived. IMO experiance only matters up to a certain point

And yet Thor can tell a Karate Chop and a Pressure point attack.

And this is what Thor did to Man-Beast.

So experience does help.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And I really don't see how or why Superman fighting in DC Asgard is supposed to make his experience at fighting equal to that of Thor.

If people want to make the case that Superman fighting in DC Asgard is = to the time Thor spent training and fighting in Marvel's Asgard...well, that's just silly.


Who's saying that? I just want to know what has thordone with all these "millions of years of of experience"?

Those scans are from the Lee/Kirby days so they probably don't count.

Originally posted by Igniz
And yet Thor can tell a Karate Chop and a Pressure point attack.

And this is what Thor did to Man-Beast.

So experience does help.


Orion is one of the greatest martial artist of DCU. Superman has stalemated him in pure h2h many times. I don't see how that helps thor's case here. Superman beat kobra in batman's body by fists too while he was in kobra's body.

Originally posted by Igniz
And yet Thor can tell a Karate Chop and a Pressure point attack.

And this is what Thor did to Man-Beast.

So experience does help.

Not seeing how disagrees with me at all. What about that shows experience beyond a thousand years matters more then experience that capped at a thousand years?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's saying that? I just want to know what has thordone with all these "millions of years of of experience"?

Bringing up Superman in Asgard period as some kind of feat or evidence he's close to the same level as Thor in terms of experience is just silly to me to begin with.

He's fought in wars, trained in the arts of war and combat, etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Those scans are from the Lee/Kirby days so they probably don't count.

Don't be silly, jake. They absolutely count. As much as superman's legion adventures, don't you think?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bringing up Superman in Asgard period as some kind of feat or evidence he's close to the same level as Thor in terms of experience is just silly to me to begin with.

He's fought in wars, trained in the arts of war and combat, etc.


And?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And?

And what?

Cute thread.

Thor doesn't beat Superman with his hammer, let alone without it.

Originally posted by Spire
Cute thread.

Thor doesn't beat Superman with his hammer, let alone without it.

Pretty debatable on both counts.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And what?

What are his on panel feats? Hawkman has fought in countless wars and remembers every fight he was in. Do you think he is more skilled than lets say captain america? This whole "he has countless years of experience" is all fine and dandy but in comics it means squat.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty debatable on both counts.

Be my guest.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty debatable on both counts.

Start the thread number 2125478 gazillion on internetz and see the result.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bringing up Superman in Asgard period as some kind of feat or evidence he's close to the same level as Thor in terms of experience is just silly to me to begin with.

He's fought in wars, trained in the arts of war and combat, etc.

👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are his on panel feats? Hawkman has fought in countless wars and remembers every fight he was in. Do you think he is more skilled than lets say captain america? This whole "he has countless years of experience" is all fine and dandy but in comics it means squat.

He's battled the likes of Hercules (Blood Oath notwithstanding) and Hulk evenly without Mjolnir, beaten down Loki and Fenris (both armed with bastardized Mjolnirs) weaponless, etc. He's not more skilled than Captain America, though neither is Superman so it's a moot point, and said Captain considers him to be extremely competent when it comes to the art of war and tactics and fought evenly beside him while depowered.

It would mean squat if it was just an oft repeated statement with no merit, but as most things, you have to dig for yourself to see if there's any substance to go alongside it.

Originally posted by Spire
Be my guest.

It's already being debated here and in half a dozen threads on this page of the forum alone already lol.

If you're of one mind of who'd win or the outcome of such a match, it's probably not going to change one way or the other.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Start the thread number 2125478 gazillion on internetz and see the result.

It'll be generally split down the middle or a 60/40 split one way or the other with fanboys on either side trying to start shit and ignoring what they don't like and getting defensive about anything that they don't really agree with. shrug

Originally posted by Spire
Cute thread.

Thor doesn't beat Superman with his hammer, let alone without it.

Thank you?

That you would even type that nonesense is more than enough to tell me you dont know what you're talking about.