Thor vs Superman-HTH

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's stalemated Hercules before in H2H. And that single instance of Thor conceded that Hercules is slightly his better in that arena which occured in Blood Oath doesn't invalidate everything else, either.

I never said this wasn't H2H.

Superman has defeated fighters who are experts on more than one fighting style, with out powers or in equal terms.

Superman is such an expert fighter that He can even gauge who has better fighting skills between Karate Kid and Batman.

Pressure points, Military training, Martial arts from 3 worlds, Boxing, Arena fight and Wrestling kind of implies who has better odds at this.

Guy pls, Thor already lost in comics, he would lose in a Forum battle with all powers allowed. Let the Thor fans have at least this one small victory... don't be so brutal. durthor

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Guy pls, Thor already lost in comics, he would lose in a Forum battle with all powers allowed. Let the Thor fans have at least this one small victory... don't be so brutal. durthor

Originally posted by biensalsa
Superman has defeated fighters who are experts on more than one fighting style, with out powers or in equal terms.

Superman is such an expert fighter that He can even gauge who has better fighting skills between Karate Kid and Batman.

Pressure points, Military training, Martial arts from 3 worlds, Boxing, Arena fight and Wrestling kind of implies who has better odds at this.

Jesus Christ, Superman has h2h feats but not as many as Thor, Superman loses. Why is this thread still going on?

Originally posted by biensalsa
Superman has defeated fighters who are experts on more than one fighting style, with out powers or in equal terms.

Superman is such an expert fighter that He can even gauge who has better fighting skills between Karate Kid and Batman.

Pressure points, Military training, Martial arts from 3 worlds, Boxing, Arena fight and Wrestling kind of implies who has better odds at this.

Thor uses is fighting skills way more than Superman does. You know that instance where Superman is using his abilities and all of a sudden he realizes on of them work so he turns on the super speed. Well that's Thor with Fighting.

Originally posted by Newjak
You know cause deciding who is the better fighter between KK and Batman is so hard an I right 😛

Thor uses is fighting skills way more than Superman does. You know that instance where Superman is using his abilities and all of a sudden he realizes on of them work so he turns on the super speed. Well that's Thor with Fighting.

Originally posted by abhilegend
English please.

When things go down hill in a fight Thor relies on fighting skill a lot like Superman relies on his speed.

Originally posted by Newjak
Sorry I just woke up but I'm pretty sure you can still make out what I was trying to say

When things go down hill in a fight Thor relies on fighting skill a lot like Superman relies on his speed.

^ *faceplam* It's gonna be a long night...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't worry, I was just messing with you. I don't see how that determines who is more skilled?

Thor uses it whether he is powered , depowered, altered. His skill level is actually a fairly big part of his character.

Originally posted by Newjak
There's a reason it's called a skill. The more you use it the sharper and better you are gonna be with it, the less you use the less adept you will be at it.

Thor uses it whether he is powered , depowered, altered. His skill level is actually a fairly big part of his character.

I don't see it in his fights. Superman is a brawler, the same thor fans try to say that superman try to brawl in fights when it comes to downplaying his speed and here you are trying to say that he try to use speed more than brawling. How convenient!

Superman is comfortably the physical superior, with demonstrated hand to hand skill which Thor fanboys only dream he would have in the actual comics.

This is a stomp.

But I'm sure they actually have something and aren't just talking out of their asses, right? Step up with some feats.

Originally posted by Deadline
^ *faceplam* It's gonna be a long night...

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman is comfortably the physical superior, with demonstrated hand to hand skill which Thor fanboys only dream he would have in the actual comics.

This is a stomp.

But I'm sure they actually have something and aren't just talking out of their asses, right? Step up with some feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We aren't talking about two RL people here my friend. Here we take feats into account. Its not like a character forgets he has done some feats because he forgot it to use in another instance.

I don't see it in his fights. Superman is a brawler, the same thor fans try to say that superman try to brawl in fights when it comes to downplaying his speed and here you are trying to say that he try to use speed more than brawling. How convenient!

I'll be honest, I've seen one scan of Thor doing some flips, and..that's it.

I don't know Thor as well as I should, so perhaps Thor fans could show the HtH skills from him?

Originally posted by Newjak
When have I ever said that Superman won't use his speed because he is a brawler? I generally hate that line of thought because it comes with the conclusion that Thor can not take Superman at his best which is using his speed. I don't believe that.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman is comfortably the physical superior, with demonstrated hand to hand skill which Thor fanboys only dream he would have in the actual comics.

This is a stomp.

But I'm sure they actually have something and aren't just talking out of their asses, right? Step up with some feats.

You just had to complicate things didn't you? Not even Superman wins, it's a stomp... ermm

Pretty sure with a statement like that you're not even serious.

Taken from Rage's respect thread

In a mortal form, Thor defeats some Zombie like creatures unleashed by Loki along with some warriors.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsZombies1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsZombies2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsZombies3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsZombies4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsZombies5.jpg

Giant rats are no problem for a warrior of Thor's caliber either.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsRats1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsRats2.jpg

Thor can even take out a helicopter when mortal.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DestroysHelicopter1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DestroysHelicopter2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DestroysHelicopter3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DestroysHelicopter4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DestroysHelicopter5.jpg

As he is so incredibly powerful, it's not often that you see his victories attributed to his skill, but when they are, they certainly are impressive, such as here when he rescues a girl and defeats numerous street punks.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks9.jpg

Thor along with the Enchantress suddenly find themselves bereft of powers and are attacked by punks who they dispose of without even paying them any attention.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks2.jpg

Even as Donald Blake, his skills are supreme.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/Thorskill3.jpg

Another showing of impressive skill when he knocks out 3 mortals with one hammer blow.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsPunks11.jpg

Thor encounters the Enchantress' trained guards and disposes of them swiftly.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsEnchanGuards2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsEnchanGuards3.jpg

Bereft of powers and placed in the body of mortals, Thor defeats 3 armed guards of the Gibichung's stronghold with his amazing swordsmanship.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsArmy2.jpg

Later on, Thor once again takes on and defeats the Garrisons of the Gibichungs -who were the finest warriors in the Rhinelands- except this time, there were dozens of them.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsArmy3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsArmy4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsArmy5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsArmy6.jpg
Note: In these two scenes, Brunhilda had used her magic to make Thor impervious to harm unless he was struck from behind. Fortunately that was never tested as these guards could not even touch him.

In mortal form, Thor wrestles and defeats nearly a dozen men.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/StrongerthanDozen1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/StrongerthanDozen2.jpg

If you think that was impressive, here Thor takes on and out wrestles a Grizzly Bear when stripped of his powers and having his soul placed in a human form.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsBear1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsBear2.jpg

Thor further demonstrates his impressive skill when he defeats a horde of undead automatons while on the verge of death.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes9.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatRobotZomibes10.jpg

A powerless Thor utterly annihilates two Troll Guards.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsTrolls1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsTrolls2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsTrolls3.jpg

Thor plows through the minions of Seth like a hot knife through butter.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsSethTroops1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatsSethTroops2.jpg

Even after hours of torture, Thor is able to use his ridiculous fighting prowess to plow through Seth's minions and knock out Grog the God Crusher. The average strength for a male Heliopolitan god is class 30.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsGrog3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsGrog5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsGrog6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsGrog7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsGrog8.jpg

Without powers, Thor is able to keep up with Captain America -even saves his life- as they take on the troops of the Zodiac.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors4.jpg

They encounter the troops of the Zodiac in their lair, and Thor once again keeps up with Captain America.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/DefeatZodiacWarriors9.jpg

Thor isn't just an extremely skilled warrior, but his also an amazing teacher as seen here when turns the young Cedaric who abhorred fighting into a great warrior.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/TrainCedaric.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mortal%20Thor/TrainCedaric2.jpg

Thor doesn't demonstrate incredible skill only when powerless as seen here when he utterly dominates Mister Hyde in battle using his incredible skill in 60 seconds.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsHyde1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsHyde2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsHyde3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThordefeatsHyde4.jpg