Thor vs Superman-HTH

Originally posted by biensalsa
No the argument is that a skilled fencing athlete is not better at h2h than a martial artist, or a MMA fighter or a boxer.

You think a fencing athlete is better at H2H than any of those?

Again, you disagreed with Thor being better at both armed and unarmed combat, hence me posting examples of both.

Besides, like I've already said, some of the armed examples also include him using throws, kicks and agility which would be applicable to hth combat.

Originally posted by Deadline
In a swordfight and if hes carrying a sword, yea he just well could be or probably is.

A swordfight is kinda against the rules for a Hand to Hand fight.....which I have always taken to mean unarmed combat.

Originally posted by Deadline
In a swordfight and if hes carrying a sword, yea he just well could be or probably is.

In a swordfight is not H2H.

And just because He is touching his sword He becomes better at H2H?

Originally posted by Deadline
In a swordfight and if hes carrying a sword, yea he just well could be or probably is.

I've tried to tell him several times now, the armed examples were posted because 1) he disgareed about Thor being better at armed combat and 2) some of them include Thor using kicks, throws and agility which would help in a hth fight.

Look I don't even know why were talking about a fencing athelete anyway. Not it's not entirely exempt from h2h.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've tried to tell him several times now, the armed examples were posted because 1) he disgareed about Thor being better at armed combat and 2) some of them include Thor using kicks, throws and agility which would help in a hth fight.

Ah I see, like I said it's gonna be a long 'night'.

Originally posted by biensalsa
No the argument is that a skilled fencing athlete is not better at h2h than a martial artist, or a MMA fighter or a boxer.

You think a fencing athlete is better at H2H than any of those?

The ability to move, dodge and weave, counter, thinking critically in close quarters combat, defending from different angles and attacks.

Thinking that just because you are skilled with a sword vs H2H somehow means you lose those things that are shared between them is wrong.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've tried to tell him several times now, the armed examples were posted because 1) he disgareed about Thor being better at armed combat and 2) some of them include Thor using kicks, throws and agility which would help in a hth fight.

I've never disagree of Thor being better at armed combat, I disagree that He is better at H2H combat because He is not.

Originally posted by Deadline
Proof?

Of what?

That Superman has done it to Batman?

Of my placing of Batman above Thor in skills?

Originally posted by biensalsa
I've never disagree of Thor being better at armed combat, I disagree that He is better at H2H combat because He is not.

Really?

Originally posted by Silent Master
By feats, His armed and unarmed skill is above Superman's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope

Originally posted by biensalsa
Agreed

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Of what?

That Superman has done it to Batman?

That.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Really?

You said by feats his armed and UNARMED skills are better.

I disagree because his UNARMED skills are not better than Superman's

Originally posted by Silent Master
Really?

Originally posted by biensalsa
You said by feats his armed and UNARMED skills are better.

I disagree because his UNARMED skills are not better than Superman's

Where in the following exchange do you say that you only disagree with the unarmed part?

Originally posted by Silent Master
By feats, His armed and unarmed skill is above Superman's.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope

Originally posted by biensalsa
Agreed

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the following exchange do you say that you only disagree with the unarmed part?

It's possible when he said nope in his mind he just mean't unarmed and just forgot to be specific.

Originally posted by Deadline
It's possible when he said nope in his mind he just mean't unarmed and just forgot to be specific.

Possible, but let's see if he admits that or if he tries to make excuses.

This thread is not about them fencing, it's about hand to hand combat. That part of the discussion is irrelevant and for another thread, so move away from it.

Originally posted by Deadline
You just had to complicate things didn't you? Not even Superman wins, it's a stomp... ermm

Pretty sure with a statement like that you're not even serious.

That means that it doesn't matter if this will be a slugfest, a skill involving contest or them simply trying to outmuscle eachother - Superman will win in each and every one of them.

That's a stomp.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the following exchange do you say that you only disagree with the unarmed part?

I disagree with Your statement as is not true entirely.

and I missed the part where I have to tell you EXACTLY where I disagree with you

Originally posted by Silent Master
Possible, but let's see if he admits that or if he tries to make excuses.

Originally posted by Deadline
It's possible when he said nope in his mind he just mean't unarmed and just forgot to be specific.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Possible, but let's see if he admits that or if he tries to make excuses.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I disagree with Your statement as is not true entirely.

and I missed the part where I have to tell you EXACTLY where I disagree with you

To quote the Judge Dredd movie, I knew you'd say that.

Admittedly....it was a possessed Batman, apologies for making it out to be something greater than it was!

I hold my hands up!