Yeah, I'm a brony. Atm, I'm listening to this song to cheer up after this argument. Maybe its because we're always arguing that I don't seem that way.
Yeah, I'm a brony. Atm, I'm listening to this song to cheer up after this argument. Maybe its because we're always arguing that I don't seem that way.
Originally posted by Q99
Btw, I honestly rate Hashirama as the strongest, Sarutobi as the smartest.
I concur. Even Minato probably wasn't as smart as Sarutobi if that whole "mastered all the Konoha techs" is legit.
Minato is the fastest.
Hashirama is the most powerful.
Hiruzen is the smartest.
Tsunade is the strongest.
Tobirama is...the...wettest I guess.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I concur. Even Minato probably wasn't as smart as Sarutobi if that whole "mastered all the Konoha techs" is legit.Minato is the fastest.
Hashirama is the most powerful.
Hiruzen is the smartest.
Tsunade is the strongest.
Tobirama is...the...Jack of all Trades I guess.
Fixed it for you, you biatch. estahuh
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I concur. Even Minato probably wasn't as smart as Sarutobi if that whole "mastered all the Konoha techs" is legit.Minato is the fastest.
Hashirama is the most powerful.
Hiruzen is the smartest.
Tsunade is the strongest.
Tobirama is...the...wettest I guess.
I'd rank them like this:
Here's a spreadsheet (easier):
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
As is he, as you can tell.If I had to rank them overall....
Hashirama
Minato
Hiruzen
Tsunade
Tobirama
Tsunade's a female and by Kishi logic should be inferior to Tobirama....even though by actual feats she'd be more powerful.
That brings up the question of how did Tobirama loose to 20 nameless ninja exactly?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Tsunade's a female and by Kishi logic should be inferior to Tobirama....even though by actual feats she'd be more powerful.That brings up the question of how did Tobirama loose to 20 nameless ninja exactly?
They were a team with a special team-name. We can assume they were a fairly big collection of badasses likely with some named possibly S or near-S class leader.
Like, remember that Tsunade ordered the creation of a fairly large force to take out Kakuzu and Hidan, and it had Azuma and his team as just part of it?
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Tsunade's a female and by Kishi logic should be inferior to Tobirama....even though by actual feats she'd be more powerful.That brings up the question of how did Tobirama loose to 20 nameless ninja exactly?
Same way Naruto, Bee, Gai & Kakashi are losing badly to a nameless Ninja, and Konan lost to an inferior version of that nameless Ninja.
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In all seriousness though, Gin/Kin were powerful enough to cause serious problems for Tobirama and the 2nd Raikage. If they were with 18 other nearly powerful ninjas, Tobirama should have stood no chance. He was with 6 other Jounins, and they knew they could not win against those 20 ninjas even if they fought together. Thus that force was pretty damn powerful.
Originally posted by ichigo12
Yes, I knew it, Minato is the best!!!! Wohooo (Im a total fan of Minato, ).
Nah.
If Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage, as two other people are trying to say, then Hiruzen > Minato.
Otherwise, Hashirama > Minato.
stoned
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah.If Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage, as two other people are trying to say, then Hiruzen > Minato.
Otherwise, Hashirama > Minato.
stoned
Only one ninja caused the rule of "flee on sight" to be created during the last great ninja war...Minato.
I rest my case (case = balls and rest = resting my case on your face).
One of the great things about Minato is he can't really be countered with numbers.
If someone has very powerful elemental jutsu, you can have, "Ok, we five will work together and combine jutsu to try and counteract theirs, while you attack from the back..."
If you're facing Minato, though, unless the individuals are very fast/powerful or have just the right powerset, it's more "We five will *urk*."
40 opponents for him isn't 40-on-1, it's 1-on-1 40 times in rapid succession. Only the fast can try and work together against him. Fighting A and B is tough because they were A and B... but if there was 30 more normal ninja there, it still would've been Minato vs just A and B for all intents and purposes.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Only one ninja caused the rule of "flee on sight" to be created during the last great ninja war...Minato.I rest my case (case = balls and rest = resting my case on your face).
Random Uchiha had flee-on-sight orders if alone, and Hashirama is a legend in the same league as the Sage, unlike Minato. doped
Your case just got the hose (case = nutsack, and the hose = twisted)
Originally posted by Q99
One of the great things about Minato is he can't really be countered with numbers.If someone has very powerful elemental jutsu, you can have, "Ok, we five will work together and combine jutsu to try and counteract theirs, while you attack from the back..."
If you're facing Minato, though, unless the individuals are very fast/powerful or have just the right powerset, it's more "We five will *urk*."
40 opponents for him isn't 40-on-1, it's 1-on-1 40 times in rapid succession. Only the fast can try and work together against him. Fighting A and B is tough because they were A and B... but if there was 30 more normal ninja there, it still would've been Minato vs just A and B for all intents and purposes.
All that you've said applies to Muu and Onoki. Of course, it shows how powerful Minato is, despite him having a much more limited moveset in terms of combat.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Minato fans are disgusting. uhuh
I know eh? They make Sasuke fans look rational. vin
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Same way Naruto, Bee, Gai & Kakashi are losing badly to a nameless Ninja, and Konan lost to an inferior version of that nameless Ninja.313
In all seriousness though, Gin/Kin were powerful enough to cause serious problems for Tobirama and the 2nd Raikage. If they were with 18 other nearly powerful ninjas, Tobirama should have stood no chance. He was with 6 other Jounins, and they knew they could not win against those 20 ninjas even if they fought together. Thus that force was pretty damn powerful.
stoned
But that nameless man has a sharingan and a rinnegan. Also, once again Konan is a woman.
Well I guess Gin/Kin would be pretty tough opponents but considering how powerful this dude's brother was supposed to be..he's pretty lackluster. Though I do wonder where Mito was in all of that; by hype she's the strongest female in Naruto and it would make sense if she was there to help out and stuff.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Random Uchiha had flee-on-sight orders if alone,
Leave fan-fic out of this. 😐
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
...and Hashirama is a legend in the same league as the Sage,
Only by Hashirama's secret admirer who did not live long enough to see the awesomeness that is Hiruzen or Minato. 30-love
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
unlike Minato. doped
You mean Minato, who was actually referred to by multiple people as a "genius that occured once in a generation" unlike Hashirama who was never named as such? 45-love
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Your case just got the hose (case = nutsack, and the hose = twisted)
Faulty premises resulted in an incorrect conclusion.
60-love. AKA...
Game, set, and match.
Let's do this again. However, next time, bring lube so it is easier on you. 313
Edit - I reported my own post because it was so awesome, I had to share it with the mods. estahuh
