Originally posted by carver9
We really don't have any lifting fts for Orion and the one we do have, Wonderman has easily replicated/surpassed. If he's anywhere near Thor league, he should have held that block up.
Maybe We should find that writer take on Thor and see How much Thor can lift under his portrayal.
Originally posted by carver9 Orion isn't as strong as people make him out to be. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs123.jpg But this is the issue it happened it. Encased him in titanium. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs124.jpg
why dont you post orion getting out of a similar trap in simonsons run? orion is equal or near equal to superman. as stated by metron.
What has Kirby said regarding Thor and a block of lead? Stan/Kirby Thor had illustrated much greater strength than that over the years.
Originally posted by carver9
We really don't have any lifting fts for Orion and the one we do have, Wonderman has easily replicated/surpassed. If he's anywhere near Thor league, he should have held that block up.
Orion lacks lifting and pure strength feats, maybe more than even Captain Marvel, it's true, but for the most part, he's portrayed as a competitive Top Tier.
He can hang with Thor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What has Kirby said regarding Thor and a block of lead? Stan/Kirby Thor had illustrated much greater strength than that over the years.Orion lacks lifting and pure strength feats, maybe more than even Captain Marvel, it's true, but for the most part, he's portrayed as a competitive Top Tier.
He can hang with Thor.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus What has Kirby said regarding Thor and a block of lead? Stan/Kirby Thor had illustrated much greater strength than that over the years. Orion lacks lifting and pure strength feats, maybe more than even Captain Marvel, it's true, but for the most part, he's portrayed as a competitive Top Tier. He can hang with Thor.
i agree. orion has hanged with superman on more than one ocassion, he has hanged with classic mantis, who embarassed pre-crisis dr. fate, and he even hanged with darkseid. hes legit.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What has Kirby said regarding Thor and a block of lead? Stan/Kirby Thor had illustrated much greater strength than that over the years.Orion lacks lifting and pure strength feats, maybe more than even Captain Marvel, it's true, but for the most part, he's portrayed as a competitive Top Tier.
He can hang with Thor.
Would you give him a majority in a fist fight?
Nah, I'd say a split is accurate. Walt Simonson's Orion was beastly in a fight.
I can't believe no one has created an updated Orion respect thread. After my exams are over in May, I'll have some free time. mhmm
For the record, Simonson would fall into that opinion category (He said Thor would win and has given Orion the nod depending on which book his penning), he's one of the definitive writers of both characters. He also gave Thor the win over Superman. All in all, a very intelligent fellow. excellent
On a side note, Thor will most likely be fighting a Phoenix empowered Emma Frost in Avenger's versus X-men:
http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/avx61.jpg?942405
http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/avx3a.jpg?942405
That will be one interesting battle, hope he puts up an awesome showing, all in all he has an awesome track record against high end enemies and cosmics, one of the best if not the best.
Thor's going to be off fighting the Phoenix for the first half of the series. Hopefully he puts up a good fight and doesn't get worfed.
One of the reasons he went up into space is to balance out the odds, IIRC Gillen said if he fought the X-men, he'd be an unstoppable force and Colossus Juggernaut wouldn't want to be in his way.
And unfortunately, Fraction isn't writing any of his main battles, at least far as I can tell (Haven't been paying attention to this event). If he is, the opponent is pretty much screwed, but on the flip side, in an event like this with so many writers, characters will get jobbed to some extent, and for someone's pet character, what's better than looking good against a powerhouse like Thor?
Originally posted by carver9
Orion isn't as strong as people make him out to be.http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/fs123.jpg
But this is the issue it happened it. Encased him in titanium.
Thor can't break out of chains
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/1.jpg
Thor struggles to break out of lava
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/2.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/3.jpg
Thor struggles to break out of cement
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/5.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/6.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/7.jpg
Thor can't break free from debris
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/8.jpg
Thor is pinned and knocked out from a rock
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/9.jpg
Thor at half strength can't lift a tractor
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/10.jpg
Thor is pinned by a Javelin
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/11.jpg
Troll more.
[QUOTE=13803926]Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus [B]Nah, I'd say a split is accurate. Walt Simonson's Orion was beastly in a fight. I can't believe no one has created an updated Orion respect thread. After my exams are over in May, I'll have some free time. mhmm For the record, Simonson would fall into that opinion category (He said Thor would win and has given Orion the nod depending on which book his penning), he's one of the definitive writers of both characters. He also gave Thor the win over Superman. All in all, a very intelligent fellow. excellent On a side note, Thor will most likely be fighting a Phoenix empowered Emma Frost in Avenger's versus X-men: http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/avx61.jpg?942405 http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/avx3a.jpg?942405 That will be one interesting battle, hope he puts up an awesome showing, all in all he has an awesome track record against high end enemies and cos
truth! even Ravenseye ( a huge thor fan and respected poster from Herochat) acknowleadges that it would be a split. hell, i think he said simonsons orion would get a small majority. anyway, split is my vote.
Originally posted by Spire
Thor can't break out of chains
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/1.jpgThor struggles to break out of lava
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/2.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/3.jpgThor struggles to break out of cement
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/5.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/6.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/7.jpgThor can't break free from debris
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/8.jpgThor is pinned and knocked out from a rock
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/9.jpgThor at half strength can't lift a tractor
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/10.jpgThor is pinned by a Javelin
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/Spire84/11.jpgTroll more.
Good attempt at the trolling but these should definitely have asterisks but whatever, it's not important.
Edit: Okay, I'm too much of a fanboy to not get in at least one correction. In the fourth set, that wasn't regular debris but Earth controlled and pressed on Thor by Ego Prime after he blasts him.
Now I'm satisfied, post Thor getting knocked down by a bullet.
