Originally posted by CosmicCometIt's theoretical. It's like saying Superman can defeat Morpheus from the Sandman book based on feats.
??I'm not talking about Herc.
I'm talking about you saying TOAA has no feats and thus he's weak according to Cogito's reasoning.
Originally posted by CogitoThat was just one example I just threw out there.He was referring to the TOAA example before.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Eternity is part of TOAA's creation... TOAA has never been beaten.
Sorry if what I said was confusing. I didn't mean to compare Eternity to TOAA.
Eternity is the sum of all life in the universe. No being within the universe should ever be capable of surpassing Eternity as he's defined. For example, Mad Jim Jaspers shouldn't be > Eternity because Eternity is MJJ, plus countless more beings.
It's just something that irks me about Marvel g007-psyduck
Originally posted by hunbu04Flat out incorrect. The scan here clearly shows everyone is needed to defeat the Chaos King. Herc was being ripped into. Literally.
Come on quan there are level of omnipotence
What happen when two omnipotent beings fight. Yes did didn't outright beat the CK but he definately stalemated him for some time. and after that He recreated the multiverse. Those feats are above RK Thor level.
Here he's ripped into. Herc was nothing compared to CKing.
Here classic Thor does more damage to the Cking than Herc did. Herc just basically punched. There isn't really much to his game.
Now I haven't even gotten into the methods Rune Thor will approach someone who punches him. But if you really believe someone who just throws punches can beat Thor here you have another thing coming.
Herc only restored the universe anyways per the scan not the multiverse. This doesn't really pertain to a combat feat anyway so why anyone uses this as why he wins is silly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Flat out incorrect. The scan here clearly shows everyone is needed to defeat the Chaos King. Herc was being ripped into. Literally.Here he's ripped into. Herc was nothing compared to CKing.
Here classic Thor does more damage to the Cking than Herc did. Herc just basically punched. There isn't really much to his game.
Now I haven't even gotten into the methods Rune Thor will approach someone who punches him. But if you really believe someone who just throws punches can beat Thor here you have another thing coming.
Herc only restored the universe anyways per the scan not the multiverse. This doesn't really pertain to a combat feat anyway so why anyone uses this as why he wins is silly.
a) It's true that even awakened SG Herc was no match for CK. No one is disputing this. However you are lowballing the hell out of SG Herc. He survived brutal punishment vs Chaos King, the same CK that wtfpwned entire PANTHEONS and their skyfathers (and hell lords).
b) Thor didn't do ANY damage to CK. Startling him != damage. Thor would have died like a gnat like all the other Gods if SG Herc wasn't there taking the brunt of CK's assault.
c) Even if you go with the 98.7% of the universe (as opposed to the multiverse) argument, that's still one hell of a display of power. SG Herc restored 616 universe AND all the god realms and hell realms that are adjacent realities to 616 universe that CK destroyed.
SG is so far above RK Thor it's not even funny.
Originally posted by zopzopOk, so he survived attacks from him. Classic Thor himself has stalemated Mephisto in his own realm. Thor has done well against Hela herself at his classic levels. The point is Herc was nothing to the Ck either.
a) It's true that even awakened SG Herc was no match for CK. No one is disputing this. However you are lowballing the hell out of SG Herc. He survived brutal punishment vs Chaos King, the same CK that wtfpwned entire PANTHEONS and their skyfathers (and hell lords).
Thor did more damage than Herc did. Neither were a threat to him but Herc's power doesn't really impress me. He just threw haymakers.
b) Thor didn't do ANY damage to CK. Startling him != damage. Thor would have died like a gnat like all the other Gods if SG Herc wasn't there taking the brunt of CK's assault.[/B]
It's not a combat feat so it doesn't matter either way. It won't aid him against Runic Thor.
c) Even if you go with the 98.7% of the universe (as opposed to the multiverse) argument, that's still one hell of a display of power. SG Herc restored 616 universe AND all the god realms and hell realms that are adjacent realities to 616 universe that CK destroyed. [/B]
I don't think so. Runic Thor knew ancient magic that would pwn him. He'd behead him and quite easily. Thor was just too formidable to a guy that just throws punches.
SG is so far above RK Thor it's not even funny. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, so he survived attacks from him. Classic Thor himself has stalemated Mephisto in his own realm. Thor has done well against Hela herself at his classic levels. The point is Herc was nothing to the Ck either.
Thor did more damage than Herc did. Neither were a threat to him but Herc's power doesn't really impress me. He just threw haymakers.
It's not a combat feat so it doesn't matter either way. It won't aid him against Runic Thor.
I don't think so. Runic Thor knew ancient magic that would pwn him. He'd behead him and quite easily. Thor was just too formidable to a guy that just throws punches.
a) Who cares about Thor and Mephisto? Doom beat Mephisto at his own game in his realm.
b) Thor did NO damage. At all. Period. At least Herc broke a couple of CK's teeth and forced him through the portal to the Continuum.
c) Of course it's not a combat feat. The combat feat was surviving and holding his own vs CK (the same CK who killed ALL Skyfathers, their entire pantheons, and their realms). The beautiful thing about this non combat feat was, SG Herc not only undid the material damage to the universe (multiverse) and it's adjacent realms, he rezzed ALL the Gods and Demon Lords that were killed by CK.
Keeping in mind that it took a portion of each of Earth's PANTHEONS to rez a dead Skyfather (Odin), SG Hercs power level must have been crazy.
d) Blame the writer for not displaying more powers and abilities SG Herc had access to. As it stands, he was stated to be the most powerful All Father ever. That would include RKT.
Originally posted by zopzopa)Thor beat Doom before with prep along with Loki's aid.
a) Who cares about Thor and Mephisto? Doom beat Mephisto at his own game in his realm.b) Thor did NO damage. At all. Period. At least Herc broke a couple of CK's teeth and forced him through the portal to the Continuum.
c) Of course it's not a combat feat. The combat feat was surviving and holding his own vs CK (the same CK who killed ALL Skyfathers, their entire pantheons, and their realms). The beautiful thing about this non combat feat was, SG Herc not only undid the material damage to the universe (multiverse) and it's adjacent realms, he rezzed ALL the Gods and Demon Lords that were killed by CK.
Keeping in mind that it took a portion of each of Earth's PANTHEONS to rez a dead Skyfather (Odin), SG Hercs power level must have been crazy.
d) Blame the writer for not displaying more powers and abilities SG Herc had access to. As it stands, he was stated to be the most powerful All Father ever. That would include RKT.
b)Thor tore right through his body. That's greater damage than knocking a few teeth out. Read the scan again. It's right up there.
c)He was being stomped and did less damage than classic Thor did. It's not a combat feat so who cares.
d)That has nothing to do with Runic Thor. I never claimed he was the most powerful ever either but he's clearly more formidable than a guy who punches.
Runic Thor takes his head off with a simple spell.
