Originally posted by quanchi112
Wisdom+power over a really powerful guy who throws punches. If Hulk is more powerful than a weakened Strange who can bfr him. Who wins ? Is the wiser less powerful character or the more powerful guy ?Thor is very persistent.
lol at two things here:
1. Your completely irrelevant analogy
2. Your claim that persistence matters here, when yesterday you were mocking the idea that persistence mattered in the Sodam Yat vs. Thanos thread.
Originally posted by Cogito1. That's an example of someone less powerful using his intelligence to win the battle per kmc rules. Of course you don't like it. It destroys your logic.
lol at two things here:1. Your completely irrelevant analogy
2. Your claim that persistence matters here, when yesterday you were mocking the idea that persistence mattered in the Sodam Yat vs. Thanos thread.
2. I was being sarcastic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. That's an example of someone less powerful using his intelligence to win the battle per kmc rules. Of course you don't like it. It destroys your logic.
You compared a one-dimensional brick like the Hulk to a guy with the power to restored 98.7% of the multiverse. That destroys logic for sure kinda
Originally posted by CogitoYou said the powerful guy wins. Herc's offensive game was punching just like the Hulk except at least he thunderclaps occasionally. So yes it fits.
You compared a one-dimensional brick like the Hulk to a guy with the power to restored 98.7% of the multiverse. That destroys logic for sure kinda
Also it was the universe not the multiverse.
You don't seem knowledgeable enough to even get the context right. This isn't a combat feat either.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said the powerful guy wins. Herc's offensive game was punching just like the Hulk except at least he thunderclaps occasionally. So yes it fits.Also it was the universe not the multiverse.
You don't seem knowledgeable enough to even get the context right. This isn't a combat feat either.
Quan, you just don't know when to stop.
You know the universe/multiverse comments are debatable in CW. It was referred to as both universal and multiversal. Even if it was universal, it's greater power than RKT has.
And are you shitting me with this "combat" feat argument? All power showings are relevant. LT doesn't go around punching opponents. TOAA doesn't have any combat feats. Grow up and think like an adult.
Originally posted by CogitoThat isn't a combat feat. It was stated on panel in the issue to be universal. You were wrong. It clearly says the universe.
Quan, you just don't know when to stop.You know the universe/multiverse comments are debatable in CW. It was referred to as both universal and multiversal. Even if it was universal, it's greater power than RKT has.
And are you shitting me with this "combat" feat argument? All power showings are relevant. LT doesn't go around punching opponents. TOAA doesn't have any combat feats. Grow up and think like an adult.
Lt has shown other abilities than punching. Herc can restore the universe but while injured he lost his powers in doing so. he couldn't do so while locked in battle. We argue based on how they fight. Herc punches.
Thor casts exotic spells along with powerful blasts. Thor wins. He takes his head off.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't a combat feat. It was stated on panel in the issue to be universal. You were wrong. It clearly says the universe.Lt has shown other abilities than punching. Herc can restore the universe but while injured he lost his powers in doing so. he couldn't do so while locked in battle. We argue based on how they fight. Herc punches.
Thor casts exotic spells along with powerful blasts. Thor wins. He takes his head off.
It also clearly says multiverse facepalm2
Indeed, LT has shown powers other than punching. You know who else has? Hercules.
Not that he needs to. He punches RKT to death. 😂
Originally posted by CogitoWhen Herc restored iti stated universe. In the same issue. I just posted the scan. Post a scan Herc restored the multiverse then.
It also clearly says multiverse facepalm2Indeed, LT has shown powers other than punching. You know who else has? Hercules.
Not that he needs to. He punches RKT to death. 😂
Chaos War Herc threw punches. How else can he attack Thor ? Go ahead and tell me. I posted scans to articulate my case you haven't.
Took about two seconds to peruse the CK respect thread.
Originally posted by Igniz
Chaos King is a Multiversal Threat.http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKMultiversalThreat.jpg?t=1303108700
Originally posted by Igniz
Heroic age prince of power#4Chaos King is a threat to all realities.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKThreatToTheMU1.jpg?t=1303108150
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKThreatToTheMU2.jpg?t=1303108392
Originally posted by Igniz
Chaos War#4The Chaos King destroyed 98.76% of the Multiverse according to Amadeus Cho.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKdestroys9876ofthemultiverse.jpg?t=1303188003
Alright!I'm gonna shoot down the argument that The Chaos King only destroyed one Universe, or the saying "616 is a Multiverse" crap argument.I'm gonna use some on panel scenes from Defenders Vol.3 #3 to prove this guys should have believed Amadeus Cho in the first place.
With a shift in the cosmic axis and with some help from his sister Umar, Dormammu defeats 616 Eternity.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Untitled-03.jpg?t=1303188316
It gets better from here.Dormammu plots to recreate the Universe(singular) by going inside Eternity.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Untitled-04.jpg?t=1303188478
But what is this?Dormammu states "Worlds within Worlds"omg_smilie ,"Dimensions folding into themselves!"shocking ,"Entire Universes being born and collapsing into ruin!"shocking ,"And yet I sense that all this--is but the merest fraction of what Eternity is!" 😱 Could it be 616 Eternity as an Aspect, still represents Multi-Eternity?Oh wait!Its true!Its damn true!
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Untitled-05.jpg?t=1303188526
Remember Dormammu plans to detonate the Heart of Eternity to trigger a "Creation Event".He even describes "Eternal Nothingness and Oceanic Void."He recreates the Multiverse in his own image known as the "Dormammuverse".
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Untitled-06.jpg?t=1303189567
Oceanic Void and Eternal nothingness?Doesn't that remind as of someone?Oh yeah! The Chaos King!Chaos King is Multiversal and is the Void in the beginning.Defenders Vol 3 #3 proves that. 😆 😆
Chaos King is blinded the more he consumes.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKisblindedbyhisgrowingdarkness.jpg?t=1303189839
Amadesus explains what the continuum's purpose.And remember Chaotic inflation and what Dormammu said about entire Universes being born.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Amadeusexplainsaboutthecontinuum.jpg?t=1303189905
Hercules confirms Amadeus Cho's 98.76% of the Multiverse is destroyed by the Chaos King via Omniscience.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HerculesConfirmsAmadeusCho.jpg?t=1303190059
The Chaos King's Minions attacks.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckminionsattacks1.jpg?t=1303190161
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckminionsattacks2.jpg?t=1303190204
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckminionattacks3.jpg?t=1303190238Chaos King's final assault.
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault1.jpg?t=1303190307
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault2.jpg?t=1303190338
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault3.jpg?t=1303190373
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault4.jpg?t=1303190399
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault5.jpg?t=1303190427
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ckfinalassault6.jpg?t=1303190454
Originally posted by Igniz
Chaos King threatens all realities.http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKThreatensAllofRealities.jpg?t=1303174705
Originally posted by Igniz
Okay!Another trip to Marvel History.If anyone here remembers what a Time Bubble is, Fred Van Lente and Greg Pak may have actually used it as a reference on how or what the Chaos King is capable of.here's a description of what a time bubble is.http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/timebubblegalactus.htm
One could say that the Chaos King was turning/turned into a living Time Bubble that was absorbing the Multiverse.
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What's left of Creation.http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Whatsleftofcreation.jpg?t=1303265714
Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't the Chaos King this is CW Hercules. Hercules was nothing to the Chaos King. You do seem to be a respect thread debater.
Don't pretend like they're not related.
Either CK destroyed 98.7% of the multiverse and Herc restored it, or CK destroyed 98.7% of the universe and Herc restored it. There is evidence for both because the arc was so stupid and apparently writers don't know what they're doing.
Either way it's a greater display of power than Thor has. You just keep rebutting every demonstration of Herc's vast superiority with "Thor wins" or "Thor wins with powerful blasts"
Originally posted by CogitoIn the arc Hercules restored the universe. That's what's stated but either way I don't ge hung up on words like universe or multiverse. It doesn't really prove anything.
Don't pretend like they're not related.Either CK destroyed 98.7% of the multiverse and Herc restored it, or CK destroyed 98.7% of the universe and Herc restored it. There is evidence for both because the arc was so stupid and apparently writers don't know what they're doing.
Either way it's a greater display of power than Thor has. You just keep rebutting every demonstration of Herc's vast superiority with "Thor wins" or "Thor wins with powerful blasts"
Herc doesn't restore the universe as an attack and by doing so he'd lose his powers. The tactic won't even affect Rune Thor. Punching won't cut it. Thor takes his head off with a simple spell.
Originally posted by CogitoSo you don't see as Rune Thor as having the necessary power to hurt Herc ? I guess all Odin's feats of power and the notion Thor was superior to Odin in this arc proves nothing. Wolverine, dude. Wow.
I've seen Wolverine stab people, does that mean he stabs Herc here? I'm citing a specific battle tactic Wolverine used.
