Lesse, Hashirama was stronger than Madara before his upgrade, but Madara should have the edge now. Minato and Itachi are pretty even and up for debate. Tobirama's supposed to be pretty badass and he has Edo and ST Jutsu so I'd suspect he's at least close to Sasuke, and then you have have Sarutobi and Tsunade to make up for any differences, with Tsunade bringing susano'o busting taijutsu and healbotting anyone who needs it, and Sarutobi being generally annoying and coming up with just the right jutsu at the right time.
So I give it to the Hokages.
Hashirama was stronger than Madara before his upgrade and Hashirama will obviously have better mastery over Mukotan. Hashirama can also heal bot himself, unlike Madara.
Minato can solo any one of these individuals without much trouble from anyone except for Madara but he'll have his hands full with 3 to deal with so the team is required.
Itachi will pose a problem with his genjutsu but Hiruzen and Minato will not fall prey to it.
Tsunade may not fall prey to it since her chakra control is arguably the best in the Naruto-verse (making it far easier to dispel genjtusu). Tsunade can spam healing, as well. Tsunade also has a giant heal-bot summon she can use, as well. Tsunade is also strong enough to break Susano'o.
Tobirama is not as strong as Hashirama but he seems to be smarter and more original than hashirama because he invented two crazy awesome Jutsus: Teleporting and ET. Tobirama has to be close to Hashirama in strength, but not as close as Madara, imo. So he poses a threat to only Sasuke, imo. He may be the first to die.
Hiruzen, imo, should be enough for one on one with Sasuke. If you put Tobirama and Hiruzen on Sasuke and the rest on Madara and Itachi, the match will end in Team Hokage's favor.
Sasuke can be ended quickly by Tobirama and Hiruzen...mostly because they have worked together in the past in massive military campaigns. Itachi and Sasuke have worked in the past but they do not function like a squad...more like two brothers trying to catch up on old times.
Madara is the biggest threat but because he is a meatbag, he can go down with a single punch. Keep in mind that if Madara wasn't an ET Body, he would have already bitten the dust, twice, against Team Kage: once from that massive attack from Old Man Back Aches and once from Tsunade.
Madara seems to suffer from "I do not know exactly what powers I should use next" syndrome.
Minato can easily put a seal on Madara as Madara is NOT Tobi: he will not be able to slip away from Minato like Tobi could. This matchup would be better if we knew how good Tobirama was with his telporting jutsu. If he was as good as Minato's phase 1 (phase 2 is absurd) porting, Tobirama may very well be the third strongest person on this team.
Going by cannon, technically, Hiruzen is the strongest one we have here on team Hokage (if we used Hiruzen prime).
Madara is the strongest person in this thread but if they worked together, Hashirama and Minato should be able to take him. Tsunade and Hiruzen take on Sasuke together(they should do fine) while Tobirama becomes a meat bag for Itachi to kill.
This thread very much depends on how fast they can kill Madara. If they waste even a second, Itachi will shit stomp Tobirama and the Uchiha will win.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Madara is the strongest person in this thread but if they worked together, Hashirama and Minato should be able to take him. Tsunade and Hiruzen take on Sasuke together(they should do fine) while Tobirama becomes a meat bag for Itachi to kill.This thread very much depends on how fast they can kill Madara. If they waste even a second, Itachi will shit stomp Tobirama and the Uchiha will win.
Maybe put Minato against Itachi and Tobirama helping out his bro? Presumably those two have worked together more, and Minato's a closer match for Itachi.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Madara is the strongest person in this thread but if they worked together, Hashirama and Minato should be able to take him. Tsunade and Hiruzen take on Sasuke together(they should do fine) while Tobirama becomes a meat bag for Itachi to kill.This thread very much depends on how fast they can kill Madara. If they waste even a second, Itachi will shit stomp Tobirama and the Uchiha will win.
Minato can solo Madara or Sasuke. In fact, he could probably take out Sasuke in a blink and move on to Madara in the same movement.
Keep in mind that Minato took on both A and B at the same time and literally was pwning them both. Sasuke goes down like a punk to someone like B. Against Minato? Sasuke would never lose as badly in his life.
Younger A & B, and B managed to get him into a mutual-kill position.
The presence of susano'os all around also makes quick-kills by Minato difficult, even when he is stronger than his foe.
Considered that. But I have no idea how Tobirama's space time techs compare to Minato's but Madara certainly does know, since they've probably fought before. The two might work well together but Madara would also know what each could do, while Minato adds an element of surprise to the equation.
I think in this case, the teamwork, and the having the stronger Minato available for something else, matters more than the surprise.
28 Susano'os on the field would f*** their day up big time.
Anyway, the 5 Hokages would probably have much better team-work than the Uchihas would, so I too give it to the Hokages...
Unless Itachi uses Kotoamatsukami/Tsukuyomi on Hiruzen, Minato or Hashirama, or Sasuke uses Kirin; in which case, the Uchiha win. awesome
Originally posted by tfish
Well I think Madara,Itachi and Sasuke could easily kill the 3 and 5 hokage.And the other hokages would die to the 2 susano's and nine tailed fox with sharingan. The end.
Problem: Trying to take out the 'weakest' Hokage quickly means not paying enough attention to the other 3. It's a sure way to get ganked. Heck, considering how hard to kill Tsunade and that Sarutobi has his adamantine staff summon, I'd say that's a great way for the Hokage to win. "Yes, let us ignore Minato and Hashirama and go for the tank!"
Also who said the Uchiha get the 9-tail? It's not in the op, and if it was there Hashirama would yoink it again.
OUCH Q99 that hurt,But considering the fact that tsunade couldn't kill pein and considering the fact Sarutobi couldn't kill Orochimaru it might not be that hard sense Sasuke Itachi and Madara are stronger than Orochimaru and Madara is stronger than Pein wouldn't you think that would kind of cause a small problem for the 5 hokages 😄
Originally posted by tfish
OUCH Q99 that hurt,But considering the fact that tsunade couldn't kill pein and considering the fact Sarutobi couldn't kill Orochimaru it might not be that hard sense Sasuke Itachi and Madara are stronger than Orochimaru and Madara is stronger than Pein wouldn't you think that would kind of cause a small problem for the 5 hokages 😄
And there's 5 Kage to 3 Uchiha, Hashirama's slightly more uber than non-rinnegan Madara, Minato's stronger than Orochimaru, and we've seeing Tsunade against Madara in recent chapters. She's damn tough.
idk i kinda think its alot tougher fight for the uchiha than some might think because people are underestimating the 3rd hokage. he was a extremley dangerous ninja and should not be taken light.. note that even at his old age he was able to take on 2 hokage and oro at the same time... Even oro said had the third been in his prime he and the other kage would have lost.
The problem with Madara, is his "immortality" makes it impossible to tell how tough he naturally is...
Personally, I think even when he was alive, he could have survived Tsunade's attacks, given that his immortal body didn't show any visible damage (And the immortals do sustain damage to powerful attacks.)
Originally posted by cdtm
Personally, I think even when he was alive, he could have survived Tsunade's attacks, given that his immortal body didn't show any visible damage (And the immortals do sustain damage to powerful attacks.)
She punched a giant hole right through the wood clone.
Tsunade's never hit the real him, only his susano'o.
Originally posted by Q99
She punched a giant hole right through the wood clone.Tsunade's never hit the real him, only his susano'o.
*Checks*
>_< Heh, they even mention the wood clone, by way of taunting Madara..
Team Hokage should win than.. The only question left for me, is the giant sized Susano'o. If that hits the battlefield, I'm not sure even Tsuande can break it.