Now it just comes down to being outnumbered on the Uchiha part...but the Gedo Mazo Statue is still nothing to scoff at.
That said Minato now has some power on his side thanks to the Kyuubi and Hiruzen has better feats too. While Madara beat Tobirama pretty easily it was implied that him and Hashirama were more or less tied until Naruto showed up to tip the scales. And while Tobirama is still the least impressive of the Hokage in terms of battle potential he would still be annoying to fight for Sasuke and Itachi.
It probably would go to the Hokage for the numbers difference. Put Obito in and it would be really close.
Originally posted by Based
Madara and the First cancel each other out. That leaves 2 Uchiha for 4 Hokage. Yeah, Hokage.
If it's their Edo versions, then I agree.
If it's current Madara, he'd solo the field. Dude's a God Mode Sue now. Wish I had waited for the current chapter before bumping this. >__>
I agree with Demonic Phoenix, current Madara solo's for the most part. Hashirama would get killed first, while Sasuke and Itachi survive with Susano'o spamming and then I could see Sasuke killing Tobirama with a bit of amaterasu shot gunning, and Itachi would quickly finish Sarutobi with Tsukiyomi. Minato's the only one I can see giving them too much trouble honestly. However, I think that with Madara's rinnegan and Itachi's/Sasuke's susano'o all together, they would make short work of him.
I think the Kage are beaten in this one. If they had Naruto and Jiraya instead of Hiruzen and Tsunade though, this becomes a MUCH closer fight, with the Uchiha team most likely losing.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Old Hiruzen lost to someone who was one-paneled by Itachi. I doubt even prime Hiruzen would be able to do anything at all, especially now that Itachi would be considered to be the "weak link" of team Uchiha. Tsunade is just lmao
Exactly.
Although, you gotta remember, they did say Hiruzen in his prime was the "god of ninja", and that's GOT to count for something, when you've had powerhouses like Hashirama in the past, and since the title stuck even after Minato died. If it was prime Hiruzen, we have to consider that he could possibly even solo the team, or at least Madara and maybe Sasuke as well, being that he was presumably stronger than Hashirama.
I don't know why people would say Itachi is the weak link. He was on the level of a Hokage at age seven. He was supposed to die from some illness when and Kisame first showed up in pre time-skip, IIRC. Anyway, we have some incredible feats and statements from Itachi that could be construed to put him above even Hashirama and Madara. For example, he has Tsukiyomi, which burns as hot as the sun and can't be put out, that he can shoot like a shotgun with a spread of range. He has Tsukiyomi, a genjutsu unbreakable to anyone BUT an Uchiha that has a three tomoe sharingan. He has arguably the strongest Susano'o. The reason for this is his Susano'o is equipped with A. The Totsuka blade, which seals anyone in a drunken stupor for all eternity, and can only be released by the user, and B. The Yata mirror, which deflects ALL attacks, regardless of the power behind them. Itachi might not be a powerhouse with casual meteor dropping, and continent leveling abilities, but his hax abilities, intelligence and techniques make him arguably the deadliest and most dangerous character in all of Naruto.
One last thing, Tsunade isn't that much of a push-over. She was able to fight with Madara and survive. Not to mention she can spam regeneration like Hashirama and stay alive through stuff others couldn't. I mean, if she's stronger than Raikage, who is arguably about as powerful as Naruto himself, she's not that weak. She just lacks the speed, endurance, battle knowledge, quick thinking, and overall skill that is REQUIRED to fight in a battle like this.
7 year old Itachi's intelligence and way of thinking was what rivaled a Hokage, not his sheer power. He hadn't even fully mastered his Sharingan before the age of 8. Itachi couldn't realize his full potential due to his illness, but imo he could have been the 4th most powerful character in all of Naruto if he actually sought more power. Only behind Naruto (due to plot powers), Sage of Six Paths, and Kaguya.
He's still the weakest out of the three because he only has Mangekyo Sharingan. Sasuke has Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Madara has Rinnegan + Mokuten + Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. He could potentially beat Sasuke in a fight due to his superior skill and intelligence, but he's still lacking in power.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
7 year old Itachi's intelligence and way of thinking was what rivaled a Hokage, not his sheer power. He hadn't even fully mastered his Sharingan before the age of 8. Itachi couldn't realize his full potential due to his illness, but imo he could have been the 4th most powerful character in all of Naruto if he actually sought more power. Only behind Naruto (due to plot powers), Sage of Six Paths, and Kaguya.He's still the weakest out of the three because he only has Mangekyo Sharingan. Sasuke has Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and Madara has Rinnegan + Mokuten + Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. He could potentially beat Sasuke in a fight due to his superior skill and intelligence, but he's still lacking in power.
I know that, but he was still on the level of a Hokage at age seven, and he's only matured vastly since then with his unlocking of Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan. Yeaaahh, Naruto's nowhere even close to top three. He's dying now because he isn't. On a power scale, I'd put Kaguya at #1, but only because she had ALL the chakra in the world at one point, literally making her as strong as all the ninja on that planet combined, even though she couldn't have many developed jutsu at that point.
Anyway, then I'd put Ten tails sage Madara at number two, because he has EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton and the ten tails abilities, which gives him much more than the sage had, considering he only had Rinnegan and the ten tails. Anyway, I still don't think Naruto's that strong. Itachi with his full potential and no disease I bet could have easily surpassed Madara and Hashirama. With a fatal disease as a 20 year old without Eternal Mangekyo he was able to easily one panel Orochimaru, someone who while he was crippled bested Jiraiya and Tsunade at the same time. That's an ASTONISHING feat, that I bet Madara couldn't even dream of without being the Ten tails host.
Itachi is by NO means the weakest of the three. Edo tensei Nagato soloed KCM Naruto and Killer Bee with ease, and Itachi easily blitzed and killed an immortal version of Nagato with two attacks. That's... something Madara would probably cry over.
Itachi's Sharingan abilities like his astounding base Genjutsu that easily trumps every other in all of Naruto, his Tsukiyomi, which can one be bested by raw Chakra that surpasses The ten tails, or someone else that has a Mangekyo Sharingan or someone with a three tomoe Sharingan and Curse mark level two. Those combined with an unending flame that burns hotter than hell itself, and can never be put out until it turns its target into ashes, a sword that can seal anyone in a drunken stupor for all eternity with a nearly un-dodgeable stab, a mirror that blocks any and all ninjutsu and taijutsu, and someone with speed superior to people who have blitzed people who have blitzed the Raikage, and you have someone that can, as it has been stated before, only be defeated by another Sharingan user.
His raw power is nowhere near Sasuke's or Madara's, but he could still rape people they would lose to in a second. I could also see him beating Madara until he became the ten tails host, and Sasuke even with EMS if Itachi was being serious.