Doomsday.
Dropped Darkseid and an amped Superman like ragdolls. Effortlessly broke Superman's arm. Wasn't hurt by Omega Beams, Waverider's chronal energies, amped Superman's combos, Radiant's energies, massive nuclear explosion that was powerful enough to briefly KO amped Superman, Apokalips fodder (just being thorough)...thing that's everything. Has a HF that's at least as good as Hulks.
Originally posted by CogitoSo? Most of those were energy attacks and have nothing to do with physical damage. As far as effortlessly breaking Superman's arm, again so what? WB Hulk effortlessly breaks planets. If you go by on panel feats the amped punches Superman used in Hunter/Prey are nothing compared to WB Hulk's punches. The only edge I see Doomsday having is speed, which is minimized in this environment.
Doomsday.Dropped Darkseid and an amped Superman like ragdolls. Effortlessly broke Superman's arm. Wasn't hurt by Omega Beams, Waverider's chronal energies, amped Superman's combos, Radiant's energies, massive nuclear explosion that was powerful enough to briefly KO amped Superman, Apokalips fodder (just being thorough)...thing that's everything. Has a HF that's at least as good as Hulks.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
So? Most of those were energy attacks and have nothing to do with physical damage. As far as effortlessly breaking Superman's arm, again so what? WB Hulk effortlessly breaks planets. If you go by on panel feats the amped punches Superman used in Hunter/Prey are nothing compared to WB Hulk's punches. The only edge I see Doomsday having is speed, which is minimized in this environment.
I disagree.
For most characters, durability is durability. Writers don't differentiate except with certain characters and circumstances (e.g. WW's weakness to piercing attacks). Doomsday has never been shown to give a shit when it comes to energy or blunt trauma etc.
I would also argue that Superman's durability > a planet, and that furthermore WBH has never effortlessly "broken" a planet. To boot, Superman has feats equal to or exceeding Hulk.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
So? Most of those were energy attacks and have nothing to do with physical damage. As far as effortlessly breaking Superman's arm, again so what? WB Hulk effortlessly breaks planets. If you go by on panel feats the amped punches Superman used in Hunter/Prey are nothing compared to WB Hulk's punches. The only edge I see Doomsday having is speed, which is minimized in this environment.
I don't see Hulk, 'World Breaker' or not, nearly killing [early-90's] Darkseid with 3-4 strikes--nor do I see Hulk casually snapping an amped Superman's arm like a twig.
Imho, DD's striking power and durability are superior to Hulk's. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to Hulk winning--I just think DD's got better chances. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007.
I don't see Hulk, 'World Breaker' or not, nearly killing [early-90's] Darkseid with 3-4 strikes--nor do I see Hulk casually snapping an amped Superman's arm like a twig.Imho, DD's striking power and durability are superior to Hulk's. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to Hulk winning--I just think DD's got better chances. /shrug
Let's reverse this.
I don't see Doomsday walking forward almost cracking a planet in half. I don't see Doomsday and Superman punching each other, melting beings that walk around in neutron stars with just the shockwaves of their punches. I don't see Doomsday standing in one spot tanking punches and attacks from high class 100's and Heralds. I don't see Doomsday punching Superman in the face destroying a planet and nearby moon with just the shockwave of their hits. I sure as hell can't see Doomsday running through beings that Dormammu and Umar AND Classic Strange had issues with by using just one hand and one foot.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris??? Give me one example of Doomsday, HP or otherwise destroying a planet as a direct result of the force of his own blows. Destroying a power station and setting off a chain reaction don't count.
Given what we've seen WBH die from a planet buster, and doomsday being well above that power level, he's not lasting long in a fist fight with him.