Trading punches

Originally posted by -Pr-
Rex was far inferior, being so inferior that he was a lot slower than HP DD too.

Applying one standard to both of them given the disparity in power doesn't really work.

Where, and when during Hunter Prey did Doomsday show that he was capable of hitting Superman if he vibrated to the point of intangibility? Superman fought him like he forgot several of his other abilities. The same could be said for his battle during DOS. Strength had little to do with anything if Doomsday could not lay a hand on Superman. The idea that Doomsday as Rex was physically inferior to HP Doomsday made little to no sense in the least, as he is supposed to evolve, and not devolve, and yet there he was getting his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Where, and when during Hunter Prey did Doomsday show that he was capable of hitting Superman if he vibrated to the point of intangibility? Superman fought him like he forgot several of his other abilities. The same could be said for his battle during DOS. Strength had little to do with anything if Doomsday could not lay a hand on Superman. The idea that Doomsday as Rex was physically inferior to HP Doomsday made little to no sense in the least, as he is supposed to evolve, and not devolve, and yet there he was getting his ass handed to him.

Doomsday is like Captain Marvel or Darkseid; his abilities are scaled up every time Superman gets an amp so that they'll still seem like equals. Doomsday was fast enough to cause him problems in DOS, so logically he'd be fast enough to cause him problems and HP, and beyond.

The reason Rex was inferior was because of HP being almost completely vaporised by Imperiex and being regrown in a lab. It does make sense, imo.

Originally posted by Stoic
Where, and when during Hunter Prey did Doomsday show that he was capable of hitting Superman if he vibrated to the point of intangibility?

Originally posted by Stoic
Superman fought him like he forgot several of his other abilities. The same could be said for his battle during DOS. Strength had little to do with anything if Doomsday could not lay a hand on Superman. The idea that Doomsday as Rex was physically inferior to HP Doomsday made little to no sense in the least, as he is supposed to evolve, and not devolve, and yet there he was getting his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by Galan007
No shit. The scans state as much.

The impressive part is the sheer durability required to come away from that event literally unscathed (which Superman did.)

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Knocking yourself out is not unscathed.

But again: it was never compared to Hulk/Betty's feat, so there's no reason to get defensive. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
In terms of lasting damage (which I've specified multiple times), Superman was unscathed. Like I also mentioned, John's scans confirmed that Superman was fine immediately after the collision took place.
So yeah, huge durability feat.

But again: it was never compared to Hulk/Betty's feat, so there's no reason to get defensive. 🙂

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Originally posted by Galan007
Regardless, I never compared that feat to Hulk/Betty's. Another poster [incorrectly] recalled that instance, so I posted the scans to confirm a few things that poster left out. Dats all. 🙂

did grey hulk do a similiar feat iirc? instead it was a planet 2x the size of earth that was on a collision course with earth?

That 'feat' has also been referenced in this thread. It was swiftly disregarded for obvious reasons. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
That 'feat' has also been referenced in this thread. It was swiftly disregarded for obvious reasons. 🙂

Originally posted by Stoic
Where, and when during Hunter Prey did Doomsday show that he was capable of hitting Superman if he vibrated to the point of intangibility? Superman fought him like he forgot several of his other abilities. The same could be said for his battle during DOS. Strength had little to do with anything if Doomsday could not lay a hand on Superman. The idea that Doomsday as Rex was physically inferior to HP Doomsday made little to no sense in the least, as he is supposed to evolve, and not devolve, and yet there he was getting his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Why? Grey Hulk has unlimited strength like most the other Hulks.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Why? Grey Hulk has unlimited strength like most the other Hulks.

As I said before...

Originally posted by Galan007
There's no way to calculate anything in that scene. To my knowledge, all we were told is how large that asteroid was. We don't know its mass, or the speed it was traveling.

Anywho, most serious posters wouldn't use this scene as evidence, anyway. Why? Because grey Hulk (the version in that scan--generally regarded as the weakest version of Hulk) was Thing-level in strength, yet he busted an asteroid that was supposedly '2x larger than earth'? Lulz, it must have been made out of cardboard...

But IF you are assuming that destroying an asteroid of that size means grey Hulk had enough power to bust planets/planetoids of the same size (which it certainly does NOT, btw), then you must also accept that anyone in Thing's strength tier (50-100tons?) can physically bust planets as well--and if you believe that, then I won't laugh at you, because I know several others will do that for me... Furthermore, IF you are assuming grey Hulk can bust planets, then you must also be ready to admit that grey Hulk is more powerful than WBH--he did destroy that asteroid by himself, after all.

Since everyone has decided to nerf the HOTM feat, we might as well begin doing the same to any other feat on record, and take everything out of context while doing so.

Nobody 'nerfed' that showing. It's merely being referenced as exactly what is was--a shared feat between Hulk and Betty.

I'd expect people to do the same to ANY shared feat that was mentioned on behalf of a single character. srsly

Originally posted by Stoic
Since everyone has decided to nerf the HOTM feat, we might as well begin doing the same to any other feat on record, and take everything out of context while doing so.

Accepting the Grey Hulk feat does not at all necessitate accepting that Grey Hulk is more powerful since it isnt nearly as impressive as the HOTM feat (yes despite its shared nature). However even then it is an obvious outlier and not at all representative of Grey Hulks strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman also has unlimited strength and unlike hulk its not just claims. I remember grey hulk to be relatively calm during that asteroid busting feat.

Never brought up Superman no need to get all defensive. Well when has Hulk hit a cap on strength? Superman has shown limits by the way.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
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