Originally posted by abhilegend
The last page where motherboard realizes that surfer tempered with her data says otherwise.
he also says his mind is clearing. i really have no idea what really happened there. you're welcome to your interpretation. it's meaningless anyway. tech-related drains can and have worked to varying degrees anyway.
Not really, when we clearly see surfer stating that he never felt so weak since dynamo city drained him completely. Yeah, we saw that he can overload a machinery which was built to drain his power cosmic in increments. Eh, surfer avoided a ball of darkness designed to cut him from starlight. Not sure how it would help him here.
but he was weakened and was still able to overcome it. that was the point. as was his ability to use his speed to avoid an attack. if you're going the whole aoe energy drain route, you're in a lot of trouble since you need to show thor draining in some wide areas. and any time i've seen him drain the energy source is either standing still right in front of him or the energy is swirling around him--in both cases he is very close to the source and the source is not actively trying to avoid it. i said already if ss stands there and says--hey thor, wanna try and drain me? i'd say thor could probably do so, assuming ss didn't try and defend in any way.
I admit, I haven't read on quasar as much as I like to think but what are his best energy absorption feats?
one of the best is this one where he does what even ss fails to do:
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Absolutely agree, the problem is surfer has too many of them.
Which were designed taking him in account? I can think of only two sonic shark and Dr. doom's device.
I respect your opinion but your methods are not quite able to convince me yet that he could combat it.
reed's devices in the past were also designed with ss in mind. wasn't the energy siphon prepped as well when it was used against ss?
Eh, you think if thor is drawing PC from surfer, a blast from surfer wouldn't be drawn towards mjolnir with it considering the blast would be PC too. It certainly isn't a spectrum vacuum, but it doesn't need to be a vacuum.
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no, i don't think it would necessarily follow that if thor tried some aoe drain that a focussed blast at the ground or something would automatically 'suck in the bolt'. seriously. you're acting like it's going to be some energy magnet. i don't see that being the case--AT ALL. nor have i ever seen it behave that way and CERTAINLY never in the midst of a battle like this one would be. it's like you think......thor sticks up his hammer, ss enters some indefensible event horizon created by this energy vacuum you've built up. but you have no idea how far out the event horizon extends, and you seem to think it impossible for ss to deal with if it did happen 1/100 times. teleporting. bull-rushing. back attack with baord. tp assault (more likely than this hilarious energy vacuum you are trying to establish), random blast to break contact. simply willing himself past it or just ignoring it like he did against quasar. all are at least as likely as his falling prey to this imaginary drain you're talking about.
So, what would you say was the thing that beat him? Maybe they meant to show the draining on first page to indicate that it was the draining that beat him.
not sure, tbh. i'd need to go back and look. honestly, i'm too damn lazy to pull out my books. what issue was it anyway?
So what would be the line where we say its PIS in your opinion?
that's pretty subjective and would need to be discussed on a case-by-case basis. some random space pirates beating him is pretty retarded though. given his level of displayed cosmic awareness, pis may apply to ss more than any character in comics besides flash.
LOL, I'd like to think I don't come across like an ANTI-FANBOY but maybe you're right. The thing is when you read that surfer can manipulate and create 5-d magic, you don't know what to do with these kind of fanboys.
you'll always get that. the people who i find worse are the ones who go AGAINST a character because that characters idiot fans make said character out to be stupidly awesome. fanboys can wreck characters. how many people here hate hulk, thanos and logan not because of the characters, but because of the people who typically represent them to the nth degree? even thor and superman fall into that category. and it's easy to do. i know, i've fallen into the trap more than once.
You are confusing the scene.
i think that scan was actually kang though. and it did happen to wrecker, just not there.
Now when you describe it like that it really sounds ridiculous.😂
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Yeah, it isn't quite what I would say is in the realm of possibility but you demanded a scan where Thor absorbed something that is moving and I produced one.😛
oi vey...
Yeah I know I can't decide what's canon or not. But there IS an instance which makes it non canon and that is the stance of parallel realities and merging of two different characters. Since the silver surfer which encountered unilord deviated from 616 surfer when he was unable to breach dimensional barrier, its not canon for 616 surfer. He later merged with 616 surfer sure but that doesn't mean it makes unilord saga canon for him any more than the merger of 616 hulk and heroes reborn hulk makes heroes reborn canon for 616 hulk. Oh no, I can read comics too leo and make my own mind upon it. That was just most convenient way to make my stance upon the mater. [/B]
you're free to believe what you'd like so long as you know the unilord saga IS fair game in any forum discussion. 😉
noticed you skipped my question about this imaginary energy vacuum and it's ability to instantly drain the energy from superman.....
