Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Originally posted by Starscream M
btw, the movie dispelled another common misnotion perpetrated by kmc's thorcorps....that thor can fly without mjolnir

the movie clearly shows that mjolnir is thor's only mode of flight

What? When has anyone ever argued that movie Thor can fly without the hammer?

Or are you referring to comics again?

For the record, when it comes to comics, it depends on the writer more than anything. Although he's done it more often in recent years, particularly fighting in the air and floating. He's also flown without it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
btw, the movie dispelled another common misnotion perpetrated by kmc's thorcorps....that thor can fly without mjolnir

the movie clearly shows that mjolnir is thor's only mode of flight

It didn't dispel shit you idiot.

The movie is not congruent with the comics.

Thor has flown without mjolnir in comics plenty, and even Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which is closer to the comics, has shown him flying without Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? When has anyone ever argued that movie Thor can fly without the hammer?

Or are you referring to comics again?

For the record, when it comes to comics, it depends on the writer more than anything. Although he's done it more often in recent years, particularly fighting in the air and floating.

Whatever man.

IMO, the reason Thor picked the building was because it gave him a clear view of the aliens so that he could aim the lightning.

Originally posted by Newjak
How would be it harder?

Hulk's punch stopped in dead in it's tracks. Thor's attacks managed to beat them in push them backwards.

When deciding which attack is more powerful and contained the more force which is more impressive. One shotting one, or one shotting 2-3 along with others while driving them backwards?

The Frost Giants realm was stable enough to support a race of large beings and their cities. So stop trying to make it sound like a light breeze was going to cause it to crumble.

To me it looked like Thor was summoning a very powerful attack and residual energy of it was going into the building.

Thor didn't "one shot" them, it was a constant barrage of lightning. Big difference.

Of course not but when you look past the pretty lightshow, you will see that the realm had seen huge battles before and was visibly worse for wear, parts were already crumbling before Thor struck the ground.

It clearly focused on showing his power going through the building making it 'live' and then going through him. Whether that amped his lightning or whether it allowed him to channel more power from the sky and use the building as conduit instead of himself who knows but it certainly appeared to aid him. As I said Thor has never shown lightning on that level in the films even when trying to slaughter the Frost Giants or when he fought Loki.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IMO, the reason Thor picked the building was because it gave him a clear view of the aliens so that he could aim the lightning.

When he could have stayed in the air like he did against the Destroyer? Makes sense.

Originally posted by carver9
When he could have stayed in the air like he did against the Destroyer? Makes sense.

Hovering in mid-air would have made him a sitting duck as it would have put him in their line of fire.

Building conducted lightning, enabling him to gather more power than he could do alone (again, as demonstrated by the way even IM's suit could take his regular lightning).

Even then, the lightning didn't "one-shot" the carriers, it merely short-circuited them, causing them to mechanically fail. Nowhere near as powerful as Hulk's right-hook one-shot causing one of them to die on the spot.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Hovering in mid-air would have made him a sitting duck as it would have put him in their line of fire.

Being on the top/edge of a building sitting still didn't make him a target? Understandable.

Originally posted by janus77
Even then, the lightning didn't "one-shot" the carriers, it merely short-circuited them, causing them to mechanically fail.

Hulk

Anyone else notice Loki's daggers appear to energize when he uses them?

Originally posted by carver9
Being on the top/edge of a building sitting still didn't make him a target? Understandable.

Yes, being below their line of site would make him less of a target.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When did he?

With his Power output IMO

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man didn't have the power to damage a Leviathan. That was basically all Hulk.

That being said, Hulk seemed to have hit the Leviathan at a critical spot or something based on the other scenes of the movie. For example, he was wrestling with one in mid-air, punching it at the side of the head and it wasn't going down.

Later on in the movie, he stabbed a piece of metal into a Leviathan's back, and it took Thor slamming it with a massive Mjolnir blow to kill it.

I guess they tried to make that scene an "oh shit" moment because it was Banner coming to terms with the Hulk to an extent. I gotta admit, it was f*cking awesome, I loved it.

Yeah I loved that scene

Originally posted by janus77

Even then, the lightning didn't "one-shot" the carriers, it merely short-circuited them, causing them to mechanically fail. Nowhere near as powerful as Hulk's right-hook one-shot causing one of them to die on the spot.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, being below their line of site would make him less of a target.

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Originally posted by The Sorrow
To generate that much force enough to completely stop one with a punch given how well they stood up to other attacks was imo a greater feat than a constant barrage of arguably amped lightning. When Thor actually did use brute force against one he beat it by striking the lump of metal Hulk shoved through it's head.

Thor didn't "one shot" them, it was a constant barrage of lightning. Big difference.

Of course not but when you look past the pretty lightshow, you will see that the realm had seen huge battles before and was visibly worse for wear, parts were already crumbling before Thor struck the ground.

It clearly focused on showing his power going through the building making it 'live' and then going through him. Whether that amped his lightning or whether it allowed him to channel more power from the sky and use the building as conduit instead of himself who knows but it certainly appeared to aid him. As I said Thor has never shown lightning on that level in the films even when trying to slaughter the Frost Giants or when he fought Loki.

Thor did one shot them. One lightning attack was all it took to take them out.

I'm not denying that the realm was battered but people trying to say the attack Thor let lose somehow wasn't still impressive is not based on fact. It was still supporting itself and the cities, and race of giant beings.

Thor's attack was causing that self sustaining landmass to crumble for quite a distance. That is impressive.

Did you ever think that instead of trying to make it seem like the building amped him, it was just a way of showing the crowd he was getting ready to unleash a huge blast, and was channeling a ton of energy. That seems more apt then a human building him aiding in anything. It doesn't make sense.

And Thor's Frost Giant Buster was by far is biggest lightning attack.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I doubt it....there was 15 aliens concentrating their fire on hulk....I've never seen thor creating 15 lightning arcs on one single target

also, hulk wasn't messed up at all...he just got pissed

in fact he saved Iron Man as IM fell right in the next scene...so not sure where you got the fact that hulk was messed up

Hulk was stalemated by that much barrage coming down on him, though; he couldn't get away or jump up and attack them. It was only after they were remotely deactivated that he could move again.