Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor 'generated' enough force to knock 2-3 of the things backwards which is better than what Hulk did cause he did what Hulk did but on a much larger area.

Thor did one shot them. One lightning attack was all it took to take them out.

I'm not denying that the realm was battered but people trying to say the attack Thor let lose somehow wasn't still impressive is not based on fact. It was still supporting itself and the cities, and race of giant beings.

Thor's attack was causing that self sustaining landmass to crumble for quite a distance. That is impressive.

Did you ever think that instead of trying to make it seem like the building amped him, it was just a way of showing the crowd he was getting ready to unleash a huge blast, and was channeling a ton of energy. That seems more apt then a human building him aiding in anything. It doesn't make sense.

And Thor's Frost Giant Buster was by far is biggest lightning attack.

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Originally posted by Newjak
Thor 'generated' enough force to knock 2-3 of the things backwards which is better than what Hulk did cause he did what Hulk did but on a much larger area.

Thor did one shot them. One lightning attack was all it took to take them out.

I'm not denying that the realm was battered but people trying to say the attack Thor let lose somehow wasn't still impressive is not based on fact. It was still supporting itself and the cities, and race of giant beings.

Thor's attack was causing that self sustaining landmass to crumble for quite a distance. That is impressive.

Did you ever think that instead of trying to make it seem like the building amped him, it was just a way of showing the crowd he was getting ready to unleash a huge blast, and was channeling a ton of energy. That seems more apt then a human building him aiding in anything. It doesn't make sense.

And Thor's Frost Giant Buster was by far is biggest lightning attack.

It was an impressive attack, but not as impressive as it's being made out to be. The realm was crumbling before Thor brought the lightning down you seem to be overlooking/ignoring this point. City destroying blast it wasn't.

I know you are a fan of Thor but that is a pretty lame excuse. Thor uses Mjolnir to channel energy and he can fly, why would he logically need to hold onto a building to do this? If Thor could wield that power himself he would have, he used the building as some sort of conduit to allow him to increase it's potency. The fact his lightning super charged Iron Man earlier in the film backs this up.

I had a feeling that if the fight continued that Thor was going to be beaten up. The way the Hulk punched the shit out of that huge beast was above anything that Thor seemed capable of, and the gorilla beatdown that he gave Loki seemed to be with greater ease than when Thor picked him up and slammed him to the ground.

Originally posted by Stoic
I had a feeling that if the fight continued that Thor was going to be beaten up. The way the Hulk punched the shit out of that huge beast was above anything that Thor seemed capable of, and the gorilla beatdown that he gave Loki seemed to be with greater ease than when Thor picked him up and slammed him to the ground.

What? Thor destroyed as many leviathans, if not more.

Don't forget, the Hulk fight happened after Loki got beat on by Thor and had Hawkeye's explosive arrow go off in his face.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
What? Thor destroyed as many leviathans, if not more.

Not with the ease in which the Hulk oneshot killed the one that was after Tony he didn't. Also while they were up close (which is how the fight would go) Thor needed two arms to stop the Hulk's one arm.

Thor destroyed like 4 or 5 leviathans that I've seen. At least 3 of them in one lightning blast. And one of them with a hammer stroke to the head.

Anyway, having seen Avengers, I'm now definitely certain that Thor could have won if he went all out.

Anyway, decent movie, wasn't as exciting as had hoped though. Felt rushed. Should've been 30 minutes longer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Don't forget, the Hulk fight happened after Loki got beat on by Thor and had Hawkeye's explosive arrow go off in his face.

The Hulk would have done the same thing to a fresh Loki. it was a no contest beatdown.

True...but Loki might have been able to get up a lot sooner if not for the other beatings.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thor destroyed like 4 or 5 leviathans that I've seen. At least 3 of them in one lightning blast. And one of them with a hammer stroke to the head.

Anyway, having seen Avengers, I'm now definitely certain that Thor could have won if he went all out.

Anyway, decent movie, wasn't as exciting as had hoped though. Felt rushed. Should've been 30 minutes longer.

So Thor was holding back huh? that excuse sort of wears thin after a while.

Originally posted by Stoic
So Thor was holding back huh? that excuse sort of wears thin after a while.

Thor couldn't use most of his more powerful attack while on the ship, that and he even said to the Hulk that they weren't enemies, that doesn't sound like someone who is "going all-out"

Originally posted by Silent Master
True...but Loki might have been able to get up a lot sooner if not for the other beatings.

Well I doubt it. The Hulk mangled him. Saying anything outside of what was seen seems to be an attempt at a discredit (not cool). Loki was also blasted by a canon before the Thor incident, but the effects of that blast seemed to have worn off long before he fought Thor, or Stark. I think that he was just fine when the Hulk pummeled him into the cement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor couldn't use most of his more powerful attack while on the ship, that and he even said to the Hulk that they weren't enemies, that doesn't sound like someone who is "going all-out"

That was at the start of the fight, once the Hulk punched him through a wall he took off the kid gloves.

Originally posted by Stoic
So Thor was holding back huh? that excuse sort of wears thin after a while.

Absolutely Thor was holding back. He didn't output half the power he did at Jotunheim or against the Chitauri as he did when he was just dodging and trading blows with the hulk.

Was he trying to kill Hulk? No.

Was Hulk trying to kill Thor? Most likely.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Absolutely Thor was holding back. He didn't output half the power he did at Jotunheim or against the Chitauri as he did when he was just dodging and trading blows with the hulk.

Was he trying to kill Hulk? No.

Was Hulk trying to kill Thor? Most likely.

Was Thor trying to kill the Leviathans? Yes

Did Thor kill any of them with one hit like the Hulk did? I can't recall.

It was also slightly hard for Thor to output his best with the Hulk constantly beating him to his feet, and taking the fight to him.

This showed me who was physically more resilient.

Originally posted by Stoic
That was at the start of the fight, once the Hulk punched him through a wall he took off the kid gloves.

No he didn't, as he still didn't use any of his major attacks. He couldn't, as they would have damaged the ship and made things 10x worse.

Originally posted by Philosophía
They don't seem to. For what it's worth, Thor is seen rolling over away from the fighter jet's bullets on the Hellcarrier, as it was attacking Hulk (who was taking them, and then jumped towards the attacker)

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I'm still laughing at bringing up the lightning attack displayed against the alien ships as something that Thor would be able to summon under normal circumstances (ie. him not positioning himself on top of a building's peak, which was specifically shown to be charged by the lightning, after Thor took seconds to summon it all), much less mid-fight against an opponent that specifically attacks him continuously. Anybody thinking that the blatant location choice and specifical building charge had nothing to do with the potency of the attack is retarded - and for a movie that bathes in simplicity, that's quite the achievement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No he didn't, as he still didn't use any of his major attacks. He couldn't, as they would have damaged the ship and made things 10x worse.

Thor was unable to do or pull any of that stuff because the Hulk kept beating him to his feet, and taking the fight to him. Thor simply had no opening, and was on his back as the Hulk was about to barrel towards him, and likely pull the same stunt that he did with Loki. Then he was shot from behind by the fighter jet, which stopped the entire mess.

It wasn't Thor that snatched the Hulk up off of the ground. The Hulk was the tougher of the two, which was clearly shown in the movie.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not with the ease in which the Hulk oneshot killed the one that was after Tony he didn't. Also while they were up close (which is how the fight would go) Thor needed two arms to stop the Hulk's one arm.

Thor destroyed a couple of them with his huge lightning blast. Then he took one down with a charged hammer smash. Hulk didn't kill the first Leviathan by himself. Tony finished it off, remember?

Yes I agree Hulk was tougher and stronger.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thor destroyed a couple of them with his huge lightning blast. Then he took one down with a charged hammer smash. Hulk didn't kill the first Leviathan by himself. Tony finished it off, remember?

Yes I agree Hulk was tougher and stronger.

I thought Tony was simply trying to stop the tail from smashing the rest of the team with his blast, as the creature jackknifed from having been lobotomized by the Hulk.