Movie Hulk(Avengers) vs Movie Thor

Started by DARTH POWER61 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk could probably thunderclap his way out of a tornado. Hulk will not just be standing still like the Destroyer did.

Hulk will have no choice. Best Thunderclap he has shown is putting out a small fire in the Norton film.

Originally posted by carver9
His average lightning did nothing to Ironmans armor.

Hulk's not Iron man. He's not going to absorb the energy to power him up.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you must forgot Hulk is maneuver as well in a open space

Anywhere close to how maneuverable Thor will be?? Nah

Originally posted by carver9
and what scene are you referring to where Thor is zipping around in combat?

When he was flying against the Frost giants. Also tell me how many times the Destroyer hit Thor. Destroyer who has the advantage of eye beams.

Originally posted by carver9
Can you advise of some footage where Thor is fighting in a zig zag untouchable motion in any movie. Show a clip so that I can remember and I want to see him attacking while doing this.

Thanks.

Sure the scene where Hulk throws a Jet wing at him, but Thor reacts and maneuvers out of the way.

Tell me how many full on hits Hulk landed in that Melee. And then tell me why Hulk will land as many or more hits in an open arena.

Thanks 🙂

Originally posted by Silent Master
1) Do you have a link?

and

2) Looks like the Thor side was right about a) the Hulk not holding back and b) Thor being unhurt.

I thought it was pretty obvious that Hulk was out of control during his first transformation. Banner was hurt and in pain, and Loki was the movie even zooms in on it glowing and Banner picked it up without realizing it.

Hulk was just a wounded animal reacting on instinct. Granted, it seemed like the further he got from the Hellicarrier the more in control he was, or maybe he had just calmed down a bit during his fall.

It was obviously no picnic having Hulk pound on his chest and then getting tossed through a wall but Thor was at best stunned.

http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=thor-2012050918153812&layout=thread

http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=thor-2012051020071402&layout=thread

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I thought it was pretty obvious that Hulk was out of control during his first transformation. Banner was hurt and in pain, and Loki was the movie even zooms in on it glowing and Banner picked it up without realizing it.

Hulk was just a wounded animal reacting on instinct. Granted, it seemed like the further he got from the Hellicarrier the more in control he was, or maybe he had just calmed down a bit during his fall.

It was obviously no picnic having Hulk pound on his chest and then getting tossed through a wall but Thor was at best stunned.

http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=thor-2012050918153812&layout=thread

http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=thor-2012051020071402&layout=thread

Those documents seem fake.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Hulk will have no choice. Best Thunderclap he has shown is putting out a small fire in the Norton film.

Hulk's not Iron man. He's not going to absorb the energy to power him up.

Anywhere close to how maneuverable Thor will be?? Nah

When he was flying against the Frost giants. Also tell me how many times the Destroyer hit Thor. Destroyer who has the advantage of eye beams.

Sure the scene where Hulk throws a Jet wing at him, but Thor reacts and maneuvers out of the way.

Tell me how many full on hits Hulk landed in that Melee. And then tell me why Hulk will land as many or more hits in an open arena.

Thanks 🙂

Just like Thor average lightning did nothing worth noting that would take out the Hulk or even stun him.

Ironman was hit by the attack and it pushed him back...he just absorbed it into himself. If Thor lightning was as powerful as you are "trying" to make it, it would have at least damaged him.

Show me some Thor maneuvers that suggest he will be flying all over the place attacking.

He flew ONCE when he fought the frost giants and that was in a straight line and like I said, he wasn't attacking when he did it. Show me this zig zag motion please.

Thanks.

Thor was getting thrown everywhere during his fight against the Hulk...not a good example imo. What else do you have?

Hulk was tossing Thor everywhere and the fight would probably play out the same way in a opened area since Thor did nothing to suggest that he would go insane with his powers in either movie. When he fought the frost giants he was grounded...when he fought Ironman he was grounded, when he fought the UFOs he was grounded. When he fought Loki (twice) he was grounded. You and these imaginary fight scenes need to be grounded. Thor would still get that a** kicked in a opened or closed area.

I will be waiting for those zig zag fighting scenes. I know.you have plenty of them. I'm in my apt clapping for you. Let's see this Super Saiyan Thor.

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You've actually completely ignored some of my main counters so I will have to repeat some of them. But don't worry there's some new answers as well 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Just like Thor average lightning did nothing worth noting that would take out the Hulk or even stun him.

Ironman was hit by the attack and it pushed him back...he just absorbed it into himself. If Thor lightning was as powerful as you are "trying" to make it, it would have at least damaged him.

Because Iron man's suits absorbed the lightning and used it to power itself.

Why do you keep ignoring that? The same thing happened in a comic once.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me some Thor maneuvers that suggest he will be flying all over the place attacking.

Re-Watch his fight with the Destroyer. And tell me how many hits the Destroyer landed (with the advantage of energy beams mind you). I don't see why he would treat Hulk any differently.

Originally posted by carver9
He flew ONCE when he fought the frost giants and that was in a straight line and like I said, he wasn't attacking when he did it. Show me this zig zag motion please.

Well to be fair he purposefully took on the frost giants head on. He was enjoying the punch up.

But notice the Mjolnir spin which created powerful shockwaves and kept them at a distance.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor was getting thrown everywhere during his fight against the Hulk...not a good example imo. What else do you have?

Point being it was a melee fight. And he blocked one hit, completely evaded and other hits, and was maneuvering all around him.

As a result Hulk only landed one full on punch. The throwing Thor around didn't cause him any damage.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was tossing Thor everywhere and the fight would probably play out the same way in a opened area since Thor did nothing to suggest that he would go insane with his powers in either movie.

Again Destroyer fight. The only dangerous foe he went up against (minus Hulk).

Originally posted by carver9
When he fought the frost giants he was grounded...

Already addressed. He was stronger than them.

Originally posted by carver9
when he fought Ironman he was grounded,

He was much stronger than Iron man, so why not? And yet still he shot Iron man with a powerful Lightning attack. Not helping your argument here.

Originally posted by carver9
when he fought the UFOs he was grounded.

He shot Lightning to take out a couple of them(the more serious threats) from a distance.

Originally posted by carver9
When he fought Loki (twice) he was grounded.

He was trying to talk to him (twice).

Originally posted by carver9
You and these imaginary fight scenes need to be grounded. Thor would still get that a** kicked in a opened or closed area.

You will have to remind me when The Destroyer kicked him on the a**

Originally posted by carver9
I will be waiting for those zig zag fighting scenes. I know.you have plenty of them. I'm in my apt clapping for you. Let's see this Super Saiyan Thor.

💃

No worries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzO3n50FEE

Start at 1:00 and tell me where The Destroyer hits him. And what powers Hulk has that would allow him to do any better.

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Quit using Iron Man amping off of electricity with his powered suit of armor as proof that Hulk would no sell lightning, Carver.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You've actually completely ignored some of my main counters so I will have to repeat some of them. But don't worry there's some new answers as well 🙂

Because Iron man's suits absorbed the lightning and used it to power itself.

Why do you keep ignoring that? The same thing happened in a comic once.

Re-Watch his fight with the Destroyer. And tell me how many hits the Destroyer landed (with the advantage of energy beams mind you). I don't see why he would treat Hulk any differently.

Well to be fair he purposefully took on the frost giants head on. He was enjoying the punch up.

But notice the Mjolnir spin which created powerful shockwaves and kept them at a distance.

Point being it was a melee fight. And he blocked one hit, completely evaded and other hits, and was maneuvering all around him.

As a result Hulk only landed one full on punch. The throwing Thor around didn't cause him any damage.

Again Destroyer fight. The only dangerous foe he went up against (minus Hulk).

Already addressed. He was stronger than them.

He was much stronger than Iron man, so why not? And yet still he shot Iron man with a powerful Lightning attack. Not helping your argument here.

He shot Lightning to take out a couple of them(the more serious threats) from a distance.

He was trying to talk to him (twice).

You will have to remind me when The Destroyer kicked him on the a**

No worries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWzO3n50FEE

Start at 1:00 and tell me where The Destroyer hits him. And what powers Hulk has that would allow him to do any better.

💃

If his blast was as powerful as you are making it, it would have either overloaded I'M or at least caused some damage. Ironman tanked the blunt force from the attack.

What am j suppose to be looking at in the Destroyer fight? Destroyer standing in one spot allowing Thor to lift him in the air? Hulk would have been all over Thor and wouldn't have allowed any of that to happen. Then Thor redirected the Destroyer attack back at him which took it out, he will not get that luxury with the Hulk since the Hulk doesn't shoot beam. He also hit the Destroyer with a hammer toss which dropped it...that same hammer toss only pissed Hulk off. That fight would NOT play out the same since Hulk is FAR more relentless than the armor. Bad comparison buddy.

So he purposely took on the frost giants head on? Thor fans always have some type of excuse. Him hitting the ground getting the Giants away from him is still a melee attack.

A Hulk and Thor fight will be a melee again since that is Thor forte. If you want to make up an imaginary way Thor fights, I can do the same for Hulk and your Destroyer battle was boo boo since he still went melee in the end and defeated the Destroyer in a way that would FAIL against the Hulk. I know you have more showings for me though...you can't be making up this fighting style...this is Darth that we are flaking about here.

Lol...he was stronger than the frost Giants? Lol...how did he know their strengths when that was the first time he confronted them. I'm clapping for you Darth.

Lol...another excuse. He fought melee against Ironman 99% of the fight because he was stronger? I'm slowly standing up, tired of clapping at the excuses being made...about to start dancing.

When did Thor shoot lightning at the aliens besides that one time on the building when he amped his attack? Scans/Vid.

Lol...another excuse...I'm literally two stepping through my apt. This is crazy. So he went melee with Loki because he wanted to talk to him. Just amazing. So 98% of Thor fights are a complete lie and the Times he did use a lil versatility, it ended up going right back to melee. Darth, you are amazing buddy. You are making excuses, your argument isn't helping you at all, you are IGNORING everything and turning it into something you want it to be. Let me make up something. Hulk thunderclaps blowing up the entire area and the impact from the clap turns Thor to dust. Everything Hulk did in the movies was him holding back, his overall power has him pooting out green gamma energy that annihilate planets. Hulk stomps.

No need to look at the vid...your post was bad.

I looked at the vid anyways. Thor throws his hammer (melee). The Destroyer gets up off the ground. Thor fly in the air and start spinning his hammer while the Destroyer just stands there looking at Thor (dumb Destroyer and doesn't have the ability to leap cloud height to get to Thor like the Hulk can). Thor is still spinning his hammer (stupid Destroyer, could have at least try to throw a car at him), slowly lifting the armor up. The Destroyer shoots a beam, Thor blocks it (the Destroyer should have grabbed some debris and threw it at Thor and then had a beam follow it). The Destroyer shoots another beam which is blocked yet again. Thor then goes melee again and redirect the energy beam (which Hulk doesn't have and Thor flying close to Hulk like that would most likely end with him getting punched in the face) .

So if you are telling me that the tornado is going to take Hulk out, your entire argument isn't all that great and even aids me with my argument...Thor is a melee freak.

If the attack was weak, how did it boost Iron-man up to 475%?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If the attack was weak, how did it boost Iron-man up to 475%?

Why didn't Ironman amp off of the alien attacks? One shot nearly dropped him. Does that mean the alien tech>>>Thor attack?

Originally posted by carver9
Why didn't Ironman amp off of the alien attacks? One shot nearly dropped him. Does that mean the alien tech>>>Thor attack?

Different types of energy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Different types of energy.

Lol...another excuse.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...another excuse.

You mean they were the same type of energy, do you have any proof?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...another excuse.

But true. Still, the lightning did almost no noticable damage other than some slight scorching while the laser put down Ironman for a while. Plus they blew up cars, lightning doesn't have that kind of firepower.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean they were the same type of energy, do you have any proof?

The proof isn't on me...the proof is on you to prove that Ironman can only absorb energy from lightning (lol).

Originally posted by ares834
But true. Still, the lightning did almost no noticable damage while the laser put down Ironman for a while. Plus they blew up cars, lightning doesn't have that kind of firepower.

Because Iron-man absorbed the lightning.

BTW, are you really trying to claim that the energy needed to amp Iron-man to 475% isn't enough to blow up a car?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because Iron-man absorbed the lightning.

Which would be after it flowed through his armor. In other words, it still should have done damage to the actual armor and circuitry.

BTW, are you really trying to claim that the energy needed to amp Iron-man to 475% isn't enough to blow up a car?

Fair enough.

Just watched it with my gf, both plesantly suprised. I was kind of expecting Thor to be humiliated by Hulkie Boy form the talk here lately, instead I think both (and the rest as well) came off looking good.

Btw my gf owned Hulkie Boy "Hulk sucks, can we rent the Thor movie later?" 😛

How can you come out of the movie saying Hulk sucks! He stole the show and I'm not even a big Hulk fan.

Well, I liked how a holding back Thor was able to fight the Hulk without any real injury.