Joss Whedon on JL Movier,or Why I HATE Joss Whedon.

Started by Bouboumaster12 pages

The point is: DC can't do a JLA movie in the next two or three years.

Marvel did at least a movie for the top 4 members, to establish them.

As for DC, right now:
- Hal Jordan is ok

- Superman will be ok very soon

- Wonder Woman don't have any movie yet to her name

- Batman will probably need a 4th movie with a new actor to establish him in the context of the JLA

- Martian Manhunter don't have any movie yet to his name

- Aquaman don't have anything to his name, and seriously, his movie will sunk at the box office (see what I did here?) because he sucks as a character

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The point is: DC can't do a JLA movie in the next two or three years.

- Aquaman don't have anything to his name, and seriously, his movie will sunk at the box office (see what I did here?) because he sucks as a character

Yeah. You used the wrong word.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]

Yeah. You used the wrong word. [/B]

I could have used "fail", but it wasn't the same

No. Its SINK not SUNK.
Future Tense not past.

The dude thought he was making a joke because Aquaman is an underwater character. So 'sunk' would go there. But owing to the bad grammar of said poster, the joke was not received. "Sink" was the word you were looking for, Bouboumaster.

Failed joke.... moving on...

Could have been a typo, you'll notice that the letter "U" and the letter "I" are next to each other.

Looks like a case of fat-finger-typing, you haters of humor.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The point is: DC can't do a JLA movie in the next two or three years.

Marvel did at least a movie for the top 4 members, to establish them.

As for DC, right now:
- Hal Jordan is ok

- Superman will be ok very soon

- Wonder Woman don't have any movie yet to her name

- Batman will probably need a 4th movie with a new actor to establish him in the context of the JLA

- Martian Manhunter don't have any movie yet to his name

- Aquaman don't have anything to his name, and seriously, his movie will sunk at the box office (see what I did here?) because he sucks as a character

Please, don't pretend you know anything about Aquaman bar how much you unreasonably seem to hate the guy.

I don't know what he ever did to you...

People already know who Batman and Superman are. Why not just skip to Batman/Superman movie. Then do a sequel with Wonder Woman. The third film would be the JLA after a Flash movie is done. Martian Manhunter would be introduced in the JLA movie.

I do tend to agree that a separate Batman film should be made to establish something more along the lines of the source material. Less realistic, better fighting, more intelligent Bruce Wayne, more advanced tech, classic black and grey costume, etc.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
The point is: DC can't do a JLA movie in the next two or three years.

Marvel did at least a movie for the top 4 members, to establish them.

As for DC, right now:
- Hal Jordan is ok

- Superman will be ok very soon

- Wonder Woman don't have any movie yet to her name

- Batman will probably need a 4th movie with a new actor to establish him in the context of the JLA

- Martian Manhunter don't have any movie yet to his name

- Aquaman don't have anything to his name, and seriously, his movie will sunk at the box office (see what I did here?) because he sucks as a character

The average child/teen/adult knows of all these DC characters. They may not know specific details of their origins but they know enough to watch a JL movie & comprehend what's happening.
Did LOTR need an origins movie for each character?
Did the A-Team or Harry Potter for that matter too?

If Hollywood didn't treat its audiences as imbecile, a JL movie straight-up would be more ideal than having to establish each character first.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
People already know who Batman and Superman are. Why not just skip to Batman/Superman movie. Then do a sequel with Wonder Woman. The third film would be the JLA after a Flash movie is done. Martian Manhunter would be introduced in the JLA movie.

I do tend to agree that a separate Batman film should be made to establish something more along the lines of the source material. Less realistic, better fighting, more intelligent Bruce Wayne, more advanced tech, classic black and grey costume, etc.

Aren't they doing that once Nolan is finished?

I'm not sure what Warner Bros. has planned. I'd assume they'd look to continue to milk the success with Batman by rebooting the franchise.

If they were smart they'd just do a straight up comic adaptation. Forget the origin story as that has been done to death. I wish the people from Marvel Studios could have their run at a more stylized Batman film. They've got Iron Man down.

For me a JLA movie is only going to work if they do it on a massive scale. Almost like Avengers seems to be. An evil so great, so powerful that it actually puts the League on the defensive. Kind of like the first arc of the new JLA comic post reboot.

Darkseid would be a prime candidate for such a thing, and after being in Smallville, he wouldn't be completely unknown to people at least in name and influence.

I just seriously hope in the future we get a Justice League or JSA movie before a Teen Titans movie.

I would be happy with a Flash or heck a long list of Non Big 3 character movies.

Originally posted by Robtard
The show or do you want another film in the franchise?

The show...disregard the film so that Shepard and Wash can both be back in it.

A JLA movie at the moment would be impossible and even a Batman/Superman movie wouldn't work all that well in the context of what the Nolan films have been like and what the Zach Snyder Superman movie will inevitably be like. The style of them will be so far removed from one another than you wouldn't be able to reconcile the characters into 1 movie. Plus you wouldn't want the Green Lantern version included because it was just terrible in every possible way. The story, the CGI, the acting, the CGI, the casting and especially the ****ing utterly shite CGI. and did I mention the CGI?

Ok firstly I think people are taking Joss Whedon's remark way too literally and seriously.

It was just a one off remark after he implied that if they want it done right then "You know who to call!"

Second of course JL can work on the big screen. The JL and JLU animations were awsome. You think the same stories would not have worked on the big screen? Why not exactly?

And "The Avengers" is as far out from reality as you can get. Just the Shield Hellicarrier was out of this world, forget having the God of Thunder together with a Mutated Gamma monster and a Billionaire with a Super Powered Suit all fighting off an alien invasion!

Smallville did a perfectly good job of showing us a small version of the JL. And the success of Smallville showed there's a huge audience out there for DC heroes.

I agree with whoever said they could start off with a Batman/Superman movie.

I don't agree that they shouldn't use Christian Bale, simply because they should capitalize on the popularity of Christopher Nolan's Batman franchise. Just like Avengers heavily capitalized on the success and popularity of Robert Downey as Iron Man.

Or heck why not Capitalize on Smallville's success as well and use Tom Welling and Christian Bale and just do a JL movie. Who says you need each hero to have their own solo movie first??

I don't think they should wait until they make good movies for every main JL member. That could take years as they royally screwed up GL and are just too scared to take any risks now.

Whatever DC are thinking it's pretty obvious they're not getting the best advice right now.

Hire Joss Whedon and pay him whatever he wants!

The problem doing it now is trying to look like they're not copying the Avengers blueprint.

Alien invasion bring them together? Already done.
Darkseid as the big behind the scenes villain? Thanos has already been established in Avengers, and may make his presence felt as soon as Thor 2 next year.

I once thought it was a smart idea to do Justice League and use it as a springboard for other spinoff movies, but Marvel had succeeded hugely by taking the more risky route. If that's what they're trying to use Man Of Steel next year for, fine. God knows they need to start over again with Green Lantern & forget that ever happened (and it might be Kyle Rayner or John Stewart instead. Geoff Johns be damned.)

^ I wouldn't worry about looking like they're copying Marvel.

They could take the whole Alien Invasion thing to a whole new level. Do it on a much larger scale. And it makes more sense with JL anyway since half the roster are either aliens themselves or have ties to aliens.

I think they way the could make it different to Avengers is by letting the JL movie create spin off movies, and not vice versa like the Avengers did.

Just do the Superman movie then get on with the JL one.

It worked with JL and JLU cartoons. That was a spin-off of the Superman and Batman animated series.

And yes they should get over the fact that GL was a flop. Use another GL for the movie.

Make an Awsome script, get an Uber director, build loads of hype, use Bale as Batman and Henry Cavill as Superman (although I still think using Tom Welling and building off Smallville's popularity would work better)... And then just get on with it!

Bale as Batman would be complete shit in a JLA movie. I don't think people realize that Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne has zero charisma or on-screen presence what-so-ever. He's not even the star of his own movies; his villains are. Bale would be forgotten every time he doesn't have the mask on compared to the rest of the cast.

And furthermore, I think it's important to realize that 99.99999% of the planet doesn't read comics. Ergo, the only thing those people know about the characters are what they're inconic for. Aquaman is iconic as "that useless team-mate on the JLA". Sorry, but that's just the reality. And the majority of the JLA characters are not renown for how relatable they are, like many of the Marvel characters are, regardless of what the comics show. If you need to read Wonder Woman comics to know that Wonder Woman has relatable traits, then she for all intents and purposes doesn't have any.