Joss Whedon on JL Movier,or Why I HATE Joss Whedon.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think you understand what kettle calling the pot black, means. You are the only one nerd raging, and you are nerd raging over a little nothing inauspicious quote that everyone other than you seems to agree with.

Cultural perception. Bad movies leave a bad taste in the mouths of movie goers and make them less likely to see the next movie tied to that property. It has nothing to do with people "understanding" a new mythos is being established, it has to do with the studio losing the good faith of their audience, and that the audience being less trusting and less willing to support said property with ticket sales. Which puts WB in a more difficult place than Marvel, because other than Batman all of their current movie prospects are in a Hulk situation.

You talk like this and call others nerds?

Oh forget this. I made my point on my opinion.
I disagree with you
You disagree with me.
You think Your right
I think I am right.

And now its time for

Dancing Bannana

💃

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think you understand what kettle calling the pot black, means.

Well, that might be cause it means nothing. It's not an idiom used in the English language.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I mean they can add to the character when he comes in JL, but the point is I think they should Capitalize of it's success, just live Avengers really capitalized on Iron Man's success.

As for Welling, well the fact is he is the most recognized Superman actor at the moment.

And I know many people (including many girls) who always wanted to see Smallville on the big screen. So as far as my small market research goes, it would work.

Oh yeah definitely! I don't get how DC cartoons are so great, but then they mess up so bad on the big screen.

I don't know. I mean, it's Batman. Nolan or no Nolan, it's hard to find someone who doesn't know who Batman is.

I think Chris Reeve is more well known as Superman than Welling tbh. Welling never really wearing the suit bar one episode doesn't really help his recognition, tbh.

Originally posted by roughrider
Half the problem is coming up with the right, plausible story to have a JL movie. The other half of the problem would be DC's willingness to tailor or change their characters if necessary in the name of making a team building series. They need to look at Marvel and note what they stayed true to, and what was changed in the course of making a smooth narrative. Not all the characters origins are completely respected, in the name of making the cumulative film.

I don't see how a story would be a problem, tbh.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]You talk like this and call others nerds?

Oh forget this. I made my point on my opinion.
I disagree with you
You disagree with me.
You think Your right
I think I am right.

And now its time for

Dancing Bannana

💃 [/B]

Dude, I'm nerdy as f@ck, but I'm not getting worked up over nothing an nerd raging. Whedon didn't say "WB can't make a JLA movie. It's impossible." He said "WB is in a more difficult spot then Marvel was. They should call me to do it. lol " And you went all durredhulk and start pulling out your hair and getting worked up over nothing.

if whedon could get over the whole "relatable" thing, then his strengths with dialogue and being able to balance a large ensemble cast would enable him to make a great jla movie, imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't know. I mean, it's Batman. Nolan or no Nolan, it's hard to find someone who doesn't know who Batman is.

Yes but there's no doubt Nolan's made the most successful big screen Batman. I just think it'd be the most profitable way of doing it.

Especially if you can't do the Avengers thing, where every character has their own hit movie before the Team movie.

They'll need some way to draw audiences in other than the fact that everyone knows Batman.

Every one knew Superman, but that didn't help Superman Returns much.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think Chris Reeve is more well known as Superman than Welling tbh.

I meant out of actors available at the moment. I think pretty much everyone recognizes Tom Welling as Clark Kent.

Like I said it's unlikely JL will work the way Avengers did with each character having a hit movie before hand. So I don't think it'd be a bad idea to capitalize on the success WB has had on screen in recent years.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude, I'm nerdy as f@ck, but I'm not getting worked up over nothing an nerd raging. Whedon didn't say "WB can't make a JLA movie. It's impossible." He said "WB is in a more difficult spot then Marvel was. They should call me to do it. lol " And you went all durredhulk and start pulling out your hair and getting worked up over nothing.

And I LUB DA DANCIN BANANA! 💃

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yes but there's no doubt Nolan's made the most successful big screen Batman. I just think it'd be the most profitable way of doing it.

Especially if you can't do the Avengers thing, where every character has their own hit movie before the Team movie.

They'll need some way to draw audiences in other than the fact that everyone knows Batman.

Every one knew Superman, but that didn't help Superman Returns much.

I meant out of actors available at the moment. I think pretty much everyone recognizes Tom Welling as Clark Kent.

Like I said it's unlikely JL will work the way Avengers did with each character having a hit movie before hand. So I don't think it'd be a bad idea to capitalize on the success WB has had on screen in recent years.

The problem is, though, that Nolan's Batman simply can't exist in the kind of world that has someone like Superman flying around trolling bank-robbers.

That was because Returns sucked ass.

Yes, but then we'd have Tom Welling playing Superman. I mean, how shit would that be?

And i don't see why DC couldn't do movies for a bunch of the main leaguers before an actual league movie. they're rebooting batman anyway. superman is out next year. a decent green lantern movie and we'd be set.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The problem is, though, that Nolan's Batman simply can't exist in the kind of world that has someone like Superman flying around trolling bank-robbers.

That was because Returns sucked ass.

Yes, but then we'd have Tom Welling playing Superman. I mean, how shit would that be?

And i don't see why DC couldn't do movies for a bunch of the main leaguers before an actual league movie. they're rebooting batman anyway. superman is out next year. a decent green lantern movie and we'd be set.

Originally posted by -Pr-

I don't see how a story would be a problem, tbh.

You know what they wanted to do in Justice League:Mortal, right? They thought that would be a good idea. First they would cast completely different actors to be Superman and Batman - while their solo film series carry on - then they decided to do it with no Supes or Bats, just the rest of them!
And Jay Barucel as Maxwell Lord??? Fail.

Originally posted by roughrider
You know what they wanted to do in Justice League:Mortal, right? They thought that would be a good idea. First they would cast completely different actors to be Superman and Batman - while their solo film series carry on - then they decided to do it with no Supes or Bats, just the rest of them!
And Jay Barucel as Maxwell Lord??? Fail.

Well yeah, that was pretty crap. I'd like to think they could come up with something better though.

Originally posted by -Pr-

And i don't see why DC couldn't do movies for a bunch of the main leaguers before an actual league movie. they're rebooting batman anyway. superman is out next year. a decent green lantern movie and we'd be set.

GL has set them back though. Not only would they not be willing to invest in a GL movie again, but it's unlikely people would watch it now even if it's a good movie (just look at how The Incredible Hulk under performed even though it was good movie).

And after GL they just do not seem ambitious enough to do things like Wonder Woman and The Flash solo movies.

Yes they're rebooting Batman. But you really think it's a good idea to reboot, expect another big hit and then do JL, when there's already a hugely successful Batman they could Capitalize on as soon as the new Supes is out?

I really see no reason why Nolan's Batman could not be in JL. It won't effect the Nolan's movies one bit which will be done with TDKR.

The Batman animated series also used to have that more "realistic" vibe to it, and yet he fit into the JL animated series just fine.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
GL has set them back though. Not only would they not be willing to invest in a GL movie again, but it's unlikely people would watch it now even if it's a good movie (just look at how The Incredible Hulk under performed even though it was good movie).

And after GL they just do not seem ambitious enough to do things like Wonder Woman and The Flash solo movies.

Yes they're rebooting Batman. But you really think it's a good idea to reboot, expect another big hit and then do JL, when there's already a hugely successful Batman they could Capitalize on as soon as the new Supes is out?

I really see no reason why Nolan's Batman could not be in JL. It won't effect the Nolan's movies one bit which will be done with TDKR.

The Batman animated series also used to have that more "realistic" vibe to it, and yet he fit into the JL animated series just fine.

True, but they made Hulk anyway. And people liked it. And it tied in to avengers in it's own way.

flash is being worked on, last i heard. can't imagine wonder woman being far behind.

honestly yes, as i still don't think nolan's batman would ever work in a league setting.

the batman in the animated series was a lot more fantastical (if that's even a word) than nolan's one. it was realistic to a point, but it still balanced it with things like freeze and manbat that just wouldn't work in a nolan movie,imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-

flash is being worked on, last i heard.

That is going set the unbreakable record for most instances of PIS.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Well yeah, that was pretty crap. I'd like to think they could come up with something better though.

With Christopher Nolan helping to shepard Man Of Steel, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn to him to figure this out, as an overseer-er. He's an in-house director who has brought WB nothing but huge success. If it means a 'more realistic' approach to getting all these characters eventually in one film, I think fans would accept it (except the fanatical anti-Nolanites.)

^ Yeah having Nolan involved in Man of Steel also makes me think they prob will have his guidance on the whole JL route. Especially if Man of Steel is a big success.

Originally posted by roughrider
With Christopher Nolan helping to shepard Man Of Steel, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn to him to figure this out, as an overseer-er. He's an in-house director who has brought WB nothing but huge success. If it means a 'more realistic' approach to getting all these characters eventually in one film, I think fans would accept it (except the fanatical anti-Nolanites.)

if he ****s up superman, he won't get any further.

I'm guessing the success of the Man of Steel will determine the fate of the JL.

Originally posted by -Pr-
if he ****s up superman, he won't get any further.

If Superman tanks Nolan will get a pass, Synder on the other hand... well just how many terrible movies that under perform at the box office will this guy be allowed to make exactly?

^ By terrible movies that tanked at the box office, I hope your not referring to Watchmen??!