Who in DC could lift Mjolnir

Started by OneDumbG017 pages

Originally posted by biensalsa
^ So He will fall into the technicality part.

Now, how does the spell works on a mass smaller then earth? lets say a plane or a moon?

Superman isn't a robot like Air-Walker, Superman wasn't a creation of Odin like Destroyer, Superman isn't Odin's descendant like Bor. Those were the technicalities I was referring to.

If there's gravity, you can't lift it. You're more likely to dig into the plane's floor/ground.

I think this thread is more concerned with the idea of worthiness rather than technicalities.

Originally posted by Existere
KMC rules.

Not usable in fights, yes. Non canon, no.

Originally posted by Igniz
The "Who in DC could lift Mjolnir" would be interpreted as "who is worthy" of wielding Mjolnir since everybody knows the Hammer has an enchantment that prevents it from being wielded.

TBH I'm not against people's idea if they think Superman is worthy to wield the Hammer.But using crossovers(which BP keeps sighting time and time again) derails that Idea since it was later shown Superman could not lift Mjolnir from the ground.And again, nobody really knows what are the requirements necessary in order to be deemed worthy of wielding Mjolnir.

And no.I don't remember a situation were Thor allowed someone to wield Mjolnir and later on that someone couldn't wield it.Captain America,BRB and Eric Masterson are the only ones I know who are deemed worthy and could wield Mjolnir without needing Thor's consent.

I will believe more that WW could do it than Superman, that is that She is worthy enough to do it, as she has a lot of attributes like Thor + the boobs.

If the Character has to be more like Thor in terms of personality, but then again Captain America is not like Thor personality wise.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Outside of the few worthy and technicalities, Mephisto in his realm is the only one who did it out of sheer power.

Not exactly an example that lends credence to Superman doing it.

That.And Dormammu could wield it due to having been able to turn Thor back into Don Blake says he is equal to Odin powerwise.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Superman isn't a robot like Air-Walker, Superman wasn't a creation of Odin like Destroyer, Superman isn't Odin's descendant like Bor. Those were the technicalities I was referring to.

If there's gravity, you can't lift it. You're more likely to dig into the plane's floor/ground.

I think this thread is more concerned with the idea of worthiness rather than technicalities.

Oh I know about the robots, I thought you meant someone else.

As for the spell I do remember something about being Mortal vs being Immortal.

But if you are strong enough to lift the plane or the body mass what happens?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not usable in fights, yes. Non canon, no.
You can split hairs however you like, but the fact remains that crossovers aren't admissible as evidence in Vs. Forum threads.

Which this is.

Effectively, non-cannon within the context of KMC discussions.

Originally posted by biensalsa
^ So He will fall into the technicality part.

Now, how does the spell works on a mass smaller then earth? lets say a plane or a moon?

Hence why Magic is a convenient explanation to stuff.People could probably say Superman still wouldn't be able to wield it even if its under the Moon's lighter Gravity due to "Magic".Although its possible in zero gravity since the enchantment requires gravity.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Oh I know about the robots, I thought you meant someone else.

As for the spell I do remember something about being Mortal vs being Immortal.

But if you are strong enough to lift the plane or the body mass what happens?

If you're strong enough, you'll dig yourself into the ground. If you watched the Avengers movie,
Spoiler:
you'll remember the scene where Hulk basically did that in the Helicarrier.
And if you haven't yet watched it, what are you, a commie?!

crackers

Originally posted by Igniz
That.And Dormammu could wield it due to having been able to turn Thor back into Don Blake says he is equal to Odin powerwise.
Doubt Dormammu could. Umar, his peer, didn't seem able to in her encounters with Thor.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you're strong enough, you'll dig yourself into the ground. If you watched the Avengers movie,
Spoiler:
you'll remember the scene where Hulk basically did that in the Helicarrier.
And if you haven't yet watched it, what are you, a commie?!

crackers Doubt Dormammu could. Umar, his peer, didn't seem able to in her encounters with Thor.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuWithEvilEyeVsAvengersDefenders10.jpg

Dormammu turns Thor back into Don Blake against his will.And knowing Dormammu, he did this under his own power since he has an ego the size of Jupiter.And Dormammu>>>>Umar since Umar has been consistently shown to be dominated always.So yeah Dormammu could wield Mjolnir but through sheer power.

Originally posted by Existere
You can split hairs however you like, but the fact remains that crossovers aren't admissible as evidence in Vs. Forum threads.

Which this is.

Effectively, non-cannon within the context of KMC discussions.


Of course its non-admissable as far as kmc fights go. Doesn't mean its non canon, just like spidey/firelord isn't admissable but its canon.

Originally posted by Igniz
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/The%20Dread%20Dormammu/DormammuWithEvilEyeVsAvengersDefenders10.jpg

Dormammu turns Thor back into Don Blake against his will.And knowing Dormammu, he did this under his own power since he has an ego the size of Jupiter.And Dormammu>>>>Umar since Umar has been consistently shown to be dominated always.So yeah Dormammu could wield Mjolnir but through sheer power.

Dormammu had the Evil Eye in that scene.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course its non-admissable as far as kmc fights go. Doesn't mean its non canon, just like spidey/firelord isn't admissable but its canon.
K

Originally posted by biensalsa
I do not give a flying Quancake if He is worthy enough to overcome the spell.

But technically he can and the OP asked who can. So technically if the situation allows it, He can

😉

This is under normal circumstances. He can't. You're wrong. Again.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you're strong enough, you'll dig yourself into the ground. If you watched the Avengers movie,
Spoiler:
you'll remember the scene where Hulk basically did that in the Helicarrier.
And if you haven't yet watched it, what are you, a commie?!

crackers Doubt Dormammu could. Umar, his peer, didn't seem able to in her encounters with Thor.

Yes I watched the movie and I like it a lot. But the movie is not canon. I'm looking for a canon instance of this IIRC there is Iron Man trying to lift it in a ship and I don't remember if He was able to do it. but most important is if Iron man had the strength to lift the ship alone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is under normal circumstances. He can't. You're wrong. Again.

Where does it says is under normal circumstances?

Are you making shit up again? 😉

Are you looking for people who are "worthy" in the eyes of Mjolnir or just technicalities such as overriding the enchantment via superior power or using gravity or being a robot or both?

He just wants to be able to say that Superman can lift Mjolnir.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Where does it says is under normal circumstances?

Are you making shit up again? 😉

Anyone can lift mjolnir if the circumstances are bleak enough. Did you not understand Thor's words ? So really what are you bragging about ?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Are you looking for people who are "worthy" in the eyes of Mjolnir or just technicalities such as overriding the enchantment via superior power or using gravity or being a robot or both?

I know robots can do it.

But I'm not looking for Superman being worthy to lift it, because it seems there is not a real standard to see who is worthy enough to do it.

As it does not seems like personality has anything to do with it, neither does selflessness.

I'm just looking at what the OP asked which is "Who can lift it"
He did not set anything for it, He is asking "Who can lift it" and that is a very open question.

If He ask who is worthy enough to wield Mjolnir, then is a different situation, but in this case is who can lift it, which leaves a lot of ways to do it.

Now, this is a serious question and I was actually asking a friend of mine what does He tough about it.

We know gravity plays a role, We know weight or mass should also play a role on it.

So this is a legit argument, If Mjolnir is in a plane and I am strong enough to lift the plane therefore I could lift Mjolnir even with the plane attached to it.

So with this type of technicalities there is a lot of room to answer who can lift it, don't you think?

I don't really care if He is worthy enough to lift it, really I don't. I'm just thinking on a lot of ways you can lift it with out being worthy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone can lift mjolnir if the circumstances are bleak enough. Did you not understand Thor's words ? So really what are you bragging about ?

Nothing there is nothing to brag about it, but He can technically.