Originally posted by biensalsathen just about anyone could lift it under certain conditions even if they are not worthy. its a loophole but that doesnt mean they can lift it due to being worthy and run around as the new thor.
But I guess this translates in him technically being able to lift it, if conditions require it. Which is what the OP was asking originally.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankBatman prime is crying at his computer screen. We have actually seen Superman try and fail yet he thinks he can do so. It's just delusional.
Uh, I'm not sure how anyone here but Batman-Prime is butthurt over JLA/Avengers and what it depicts. Per forum rules, it's not canon. Yes, DC acknowledges it via the cosmic egg and yes, Marvel acknowledges it somewhat through the handbooks, but the rules are what they are. Take up with the mods. *shrug*Furthermore, if we do use JLA/Avengers as canon proof, it blatantly shows that Superman can only use Mjolnir when Thor allows it. The fact that Superman caught Mjolnir with his palm, a feat repeated by the likes of Nefaria, Rulk, and Silver Surfer, in no way alludes that he can overpower the enchantment with sheer strength or that it makes him "worthy", and arguing that he can is either blatant fanboyism, trolling, or just being obtuse.
Superman lifting Mjolnir when Thor allows it during a crisis isn't the same as Captain America, or Eric Masterson, or Beta Ray Bill being able to use it whenever.
Why this is even being argued is absurd.
Originally posted by biensalsaHe can't lift it. Get over it, salsa.
Wait but I don't get this.So is this scan above canon or not?
Because if it's not canon, then it is not proof, but if it is canon then is proof.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
it was the reason why Eric was able to lift it to save Thor's life from Mongoose which was later retconned into Thor commanding his hammer to rise while Eric was holding it.I personally think it is why Captain America as U.S. Agent was able to lift it but didnt transform into Thor.
I didn't know the Eric Masterson incident was retconned.As for the Captain America incident, Mjolnir wasn't in stick form but was in its hammer form.Hence why Cap didn't turn to Thor.While the BRB incident on the other hand has Thor prevented from retrieving his hammer for 60 seconds.Thor turned back to Don Blake and the Hammer turned into a gnarled stick.BRB accidently struck the stick, turning him into a Korbonite Version of Thor.
Originally posted by Igniz
I didn't know the Eric Masterson incident was retconned.As for the Captain America incident, Mjolnir wasn't in stick form but was in its hammer form.Hence why Cap didn't turn to Thor.While the BRB incident on the other hand has Thor prevented from retrieving his hammer for 60 seconds.Thor turned back to Don Blake and the Hammer turned into a gnarled stick.BRB accidently struck the stick, turning him into a Korbonite Version of Thor.
I guess it isnt a retcon persay but more of a detail explanation of what happen that day from Eric Masterson after Thor explained to Eric what had actually happen.
Originally posted by NietzscheanGarbage. Eric Masterson is worthy. As is Cap. They both carried it while out of battle.
its why Superman was able to lift it in the crossover which is not canon for forum purposes. but, that only means he has to be in grave danger and out to protect others. even then he may not get the full power and transformation of the Hammer.it was the reason why Eric was able to lift it to save Thor's life from Mongoose which was later retconned into Thor commanding his hammer to rise while Eric was holding it.
I personally think it is why Captain America as U.S. Agent was able to lift it but didnt transform into Thor.
You do not question the worthiness of Eric Worthy Masterson. crackers
Originally posted by biensalsaTechnically nothing.
But I guess this translates in him technically being able to lift it, if conditions require it. Which is what the OP was asking originally.
It's been explained to you that the cross-over is not canon, and even if it were, it's stated on panel that the spell was overcome in that situation, not that the requirements were met.
Originally posted by Existere
Technically nothing.It's been explained to you that the cross-over is not canon, and even if it were, it's stated on panel that the spell was overcome in that situation, not that the requirements were met.
So has this spell being overcome in canon comics?
if it has, then technically he could.
Originally posted by biensalsa
The OP did not asked "who is worthy enough to lift it"He asked who can.
Your reading comprehension level is = to Quan's
The "Who in DC could lift Mjolnir" would be interpreted as "who is worthy" of wielding Mjolnir since everybody knows the Hammer has an enchantment that prevents it from being wielded.
TBH I'm not against people's idea if they think Superman is worthy to wield the Hammer.But using crossovers(which BP keeps sighting time and time again) derails that Idea since it was later shown Superman could not lift Mjolnir from the ground.And again, nobody really knows what are the requirements necessary in order to be deemed worthy of wielding Mjolnir.
And no.I don't remember a situation were Thor allowed someone to wield Mjolnir and later on that someone couldn't wield it.Captain America,BRB and Eric Masterson are the only ones I know who are deemed worthy and could wield Mjolnir without needing Thor's consent.