Originally posted by quanchi112
There's nothing to lead me to believe he can. You can really want him to be able to but he can't. I have an avie dedicated to Superman failing to lift it. I guess his dials don't go up that high.
Originally posted by biensalsaAnyone means anyone. In normal circumstances we both know Superman isn't lifting it.
Anyone including Superman 😈
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd the comic where he tried to under normal circumstances. All you have is your personal bias whereas I have a canon comic supporting myself.
So nothing but your personal bias. He has enough dials to knock out Thor while sitting. Thorbags are lucky that he wasn't shown to be able to lift mjolnir.
Originally posted by biensalsaWhy would Thanos ever waste his time picking up a hammer less powerful than his cock ?
I guess You need to be "cockstrong" to do it? 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Anyone means anyone. In normal circumstances we both know Superman isn't lifting it. And the comic where he tried to under normal circumstances. All you have is your personal bias whereas I have a canon comic supporting myself. Why would Thanos ever waste his time picking up a hammer less powerful than his cock ?
Originally posted by abhilegendYou went out of your way to say it's canon. All you have is your opinion he can. I have a canon comic and my awesome opinion. I bet you didn't think your efforts to prove it's canon would backfire the way it did. Stew in your defeat.
Which is not usable on this forum.baka
Originally posted by biensalsaIron Man tried to lift it in the upper atmosphere on the exterior hull of the ship. He was stuck. Lifting the ship wouldn't be lifting Mjolnir. It'd be lifting the ship. Lifting Mjolnir is about separating it from the surface of the plane it rests against.
Yes I watched the movie and I like it a lot. But the movie is not canon. I'm looking for a canon instance of this IIRC there is Iron Man trying to lift it in a ship and I don't remember if He was able to do it. but most important is if Iron man had the strength to lift the ship alone.
Technicalities don't change that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You went out of your way to say it's canon. All you have is your opinion he can. I have a canon comic and my awesome opinion. I bet you didn't think your efforts to prove it's canon would backfire the way it did. Stew in your defeat.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course its non-admissable as far as kmc fights go. Doesn't mean its non canon, just like spidey/firelord isn't admissable but its canon.
Originally posted by Igniz😗
Superman isn't worthy according to JLA/Avengers😛
On the contrary. Even per the scan above.
Thor says
"Enchantment, placed by my father blabla" "Stern but not stupid."
A very FEW WORHTIES have been allowed to overcome the spell, in DESPERATE hours"
So the spell from Odin prevents not worthy people to lift it. Check.
Who is allowed to overcome this enchantment is decided by that Spell. Check.
Per Thor there were only Few Worthies and Superman is/was one of them. So NO, not everyone could have done it.
The desperate hour doesn't negates the fact that still you have to be one of the few worthy.
It isn't hard to understand, even if you are an Superman hater or a Thor fan with hurt feelings.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol you're the one claiming that Superman stopping Mjolnir with his bare hands somehow translates into him being worthy. Thor threw the hammer at Superman with the intent of allowing him to use the hammer. This is further backed up by the scan just posted above.If anyone needs to get their facts straight here, it's you.
The scan backs up the fact that the spell allowed superman to lift it not Thor. Thor however might have sensed Supermans noble spirit and knew that he would be able to lift it (they fought together and knew each other then). So did thor allowed it NO, was it the spell, YES. Did Thor expected Superman to be one of the few Worthy, most likely. So it's still you 🙂.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
On the contrary. Even per the scan above.Thor says
"Enchantment, placed by my father blabla" "Stern but not stupid."A very [b]FEW WORHTIES
have been allowed to overcome the spell, in DESPERATE hours"So the spell from Odin prevents not worthy people to lift it. Check.
Who is allowed to overcome this enchantment is decided by that Spell. Check.
Per Thor there were only Few Worthies and Superman is/was one of them. So NO, not everyone could have done it.
The desperate hour doesn't negates the fact that still you have to be one of the few worthy.It isn't hard to understand, even if you are an Superman hater or a Thor fan with hurt feelings.
The scan backs up the fact that the spell allowed superman to lift it not Thor. Thor however might have sensed Supermans noble spirit and knew that he would be able to lift it (they fought together and knew each other then). So did thor allowed it NO, was it the spell, YES. Did Thor expected Superman to be one of the few Worthy, most likely. So it's still you 🙂. [/B]
The spell didn't cause Mjolnir to seek out Superman nor did it cry out to be used by Superman in a time of great need. Thor threw it at Superman with the intention of him using it due to being temporarily bogged down by an assortment of villains. Thor didn't place the enchantment on Mjolnir - no one said that he did as anyone with any common sense knows Odin did - but he was the one directly handed his weapon to Superman. There was no allusion made whatsoever that Thor "sensed that Superman was a noble spirit" and basically assumed that this relative stranger would be worthy enough to lift Mjolnir. It was Thor himself who more or less gave Superman the hammer.
Your entire argument was centered around Superman being worthy on his own and the fact that because he palmed Mjolnir, it also lent credence to his being worthy which is something I see you quickly abandoned, hopefully upon realizing how ridiculous such a stance is. Now, you're arguing that Superman is worthy....even though it was under specific circumstances and he was allowed to overcome the enchantment.
If Superman was really worthy, there would have been no issue with him lifting the hammer, whether or not Thor approved. Fact of the matter is he required Thor's help to do so.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The spell didn't cause Mjolnir to seek out Superman nor did it cry out to be used by Superman in a time of great need. Thor threw it at Superman with the intention of him using it due to being temporarily bogged down by an assortment of villains. Thor didn't place the enchantment on Mjolnir - no one said that he did as anyone with any common sense knows Odin did - but he was the one directly handed his weapon to Superman. There was no allusion made whatsoever that Thor "sensed that Superman was a noble spirit" and basically assumed that this relative stranger would be worthy enough to lift Mjolnir. It was Thor himself who more or less gave Superman the hammer.Your entire argument was centered around Superman being worthy on his own and the fact that because he palmed Mjolnir, it also lent credence to his being worthy which is something I see you quickly abandoned, hopefully upon realizing how ridiculous such a stance is. Now, you're arguing that Superman is worthy....even though it was under specific circumstances and he was allowed to overcome the enchantment.
If Superman was really worthy, there would have been no issue with him lifting the hammer, whether or not Thor approved. Fact of the matter is he required Thor's help to do so.