Hulk (Bana) vs Hulk (Rufflao)

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
not taking sides but how does one eyes turning green signify increase in strength?

you could actually see bana hulk size increase.

It wasn't that alone, when you piece together that both times prior the the eyes Hulk was being overpowered, then he growled, his eyes glowed and then was suddenly able to overcome what had been beating him. Do you think it's more likely just something they threw in for the hell of it and it's a coincidence it happened the two times Hulk was being beaten?

IMO, it was just a visual for the audience to illustrate the power-set. 2003 did it was the size increase for the visual.

Glowing green eyes = more gamma energy exhuded = stronger/angrier

I do agree with Robtard that Hulk got angrier/stronger when he overpowered and beat Abomination. I do not think it should be debated as it is very obvious: something that should be a given.

However, one thing that IS debateable is 08's regeneration rate: it is certainly faster than a humans but much slower than Ang Lee's Hulk.

Here's how I weigh in on this (I have not seen this movie and, therefore, my opinion means nothing concerning the new Hulk): Bana's Hulk was very strong, fast, durable, and agile. Much more so than 08's hulk. His Healing Factor was much greater than 08's Hulk.

Until I see the movie (which I will see this weekend with my son ....good times 🙂 ), I will hold out my opinion.

Originally posted by KingD19
Glowing green eyes = more gamma energy exhuded = stronger/angrier

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Originally posted by Robtard
You're being deliberately obtuse again.

GG had the advantage of his glider and that Spider-Man was trying to save people in the beginning of the fight, so he was able to trounce SM with gear/weapons, then he stopped to gloat, threatened MJ and SM pulled his act together. Anger can cause people to become stronger in general due to adrenaline.

But it's an apple to oranges comparing these two fights. Was GG never shown to be well above and beyond SM in terms of strength, as Abomination was clearly shown to be over the Hulk? IIRC, they were always close in the film.

Just watch the damned clip I posted.

Lol I've got the damn film.

Again your attaching your own meaning to it.

Hulk did not get stronger when Abom punched him around. So he doesn't have that power set. All your arguing is when Betty was threatened he fought better.

Which basically means squat, because it happens in pretty much every super hero movie.

Spiderman was getting beaten down when Goblin was off his glider. He was beating the crap out of him. Then Goblin threatens Mary Jane and suddenly Spiderman seemingly gets stronger..

So I guess he gets stronger as he gets madder too?

Originally posted by ares834
Not to mention Hulk is based on a comic character who get stronger as he get angrier...

That doesn't prove anything. He's also based on a character who can leap hundreds of miles in the air and smash planets in one punch. Yet Norton Hulk clearly could not do any of that.

And the whole fight with Abom he clearly wasn't getting stronger, but weaker.

So these guys are clearly wrong. How can his power set only activate when Betty is around?

And if it does, then unless Betty's around he will lose to Bana Hulk.

Bana Hulk stomps anyway. Healin ability, speed, Agility, Strength shown to clearly and easily increase throughout a fight (without being dependent on Betty being there Lol).

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do agree with Robtard that Hulk got angrier/stronger when he overpowered and beat Abomination. I do not think it should be debated as it is very obvious: something that should be a given.

That's not obvious at all.

He beat him by strangling him in that chain.

The whole fight he was he didn't get stronger, so even if we're to believe this notion that he got stronger right at the end, his strength clearly doesn't grow at the rate and with the ease Bana Hulk does.

So Bana Hulk is faster, stronger, and has proven regeneration.

He stomps.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
😆 that also applies to damn near every action movie

Exactly! Using that as proof is ridiculous 😂

Especially when he didn't get stronger the whole rest of the fight.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do agree with Robtard that Hulk got angrier/stronger when he overpowered and beat Abomination. I do not think it should be debated as it is very obvious: something that should be a given.

However, one thing that IS debateable is 08's regeneration rate: it is certainly faster than a humans but much slower than Ang Lee's Hulk.

Here's how I weigh in on this (I have not seen this movie and, therefore, my opinion means nothing concerning the new Hulk): Bana's Hulk was very strong, fast, durable, and agile. Much more so than 08's hulk. His Healing Factor was much greater than 08's Hulk.

Until I see the movie (which I will see this weekend with my son ....good times 🙂 ), I will hold out my opinion.

exuded*

In fact at the end of his ABom fight it still looks like he has all the wounds from the fight and none of them are shown healing from what I remember.

Yeah The Hulk two was still injured from the fight with Abom. I think only the Hulk from the first movie showed a healing factor after that bomb in the desert he also seem immune to that sleeping gas as well which might be from a healing factor too.

I do believe that Norton Hulk was getting stronger the madder he got but it was MUCH SLOWER than Ang Lee Hulk plus Ang Hulk had so many other advantages that he would obliterate Norton Hulk AND Rufflao Hulk at the same time (yes i know they are supposed to be the same Hulk)

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Lol I've got the damn film.

Again your attaching your own meaning to it.

Hulk did not get stronger when Abom punched him around. So he doesn't have that power set. All your arguing is when Betty was threatened he fought better.

Which basically means squat, because it happens in pretty much every super hero movie.

Spiderman was getting beaten down when Goblin was off his glider. He was beating the crap out of him. Then Goblin threatens Mary Jane and suddenly Spiderman seemingly gets stronger..

So I guess he gets stronger as he gets madder too?

Again, I'm not, it's clear to me (and others).

Again, he did. Also happened in the park and Betty was not in danger at that time, he was in danger.

Except here it was clear they were showing a known Hulk power-set.

I addressed your Spider-Man comparison.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I see the eyes glowing and Hulk suddenly being able to over-powered lift-threatening issues (to himself and others) where he previously lacked the strength as an indicator of the known power. You don't. Cheers.

Originally posted by Robtard

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I see the eyes glowing and Hulk suddenly being able to over-powered lift-threatening issues (to himself and others) where he previously lacked the strength as an indicator of the known power. You don't. Cheers.

But you haven't addressed Abom beating him to a pulp but Hulk not getting stronger.

So even if your right Robtard he clearly doesn't grow stronger as easily and consistently as Bana Hulk.

Add that to all the other advantages Bana Hulk has - Healing, Speed, Leaping miles in a single bound, and it's quite obvious to me who wins.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But you haven't addressed Abom beating him to a pulp but Hulk not getting stronger.

So even if your right Robtard he clearly doesn't grow stronger as easily and consistently as Bana Hulk.

Add that to all the other advantages Bana Hulk has - Healing, Speed, Leaping miles in a single bound, and it's quite obvious to me who wins.

LoL. I have several times now. Beginning of the fight, Abomination kicked his ass, end of the fight when Hulk was stabbed, bleeding and pushed against the wall and Betty was in danger, his eyes glowed and he used pure physical strength to overpower the guy who had been clearly stomping him before. If you add up the above and the park scene, it's clear, at least to me. You disagree; I'm fine with that.

Correct, Norton was was more subtle with Hulk's powers, the visual wasn't as in your face as Bana-Hulk growing to be 18 feet tall nor was it outright said.

I've never argued that 03 Hulk would lose to 08 Hulk, that's a clear stomp in 03's favor. This fight is about 03 Hulk and 2012 Hulk. While 2012 is supposed to be the same character as 08 Hulk, he's clearly been improved in the Avengers film.

Does no one else realize how stupid this shit is?

I do realise that eye color changes do not signify strength increase.

going by what I saw he'd get slightly smarter since against those sonic weapons he decided to use a shield after said eye color change.

or when he fought abom he was getting his ass whooped majority of the fight the up & decided he'd use a weapon. & get abom in a position where he couldn't fight back.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Does no one else realize how stupid this shit is?

Originally posted by the ninjak
I like to think of them as all being the same Hulk.

Hulk's feats and stats change all the time based on Banner's mindset and Hulk's increasing awareness in the comics. Or are they one and the same.

This fight is metaphorically Hulk beating himself off.

I think Bana Hulk's HF is going to be a massive advantage even if Avengers Hulk is stronger.

Norton's Hulk seemed reluctant to fight.

This is Ruffalo Hulk though, who had no problem fighting whatsoever.

Yeah. That's the thing. Hulk was shown breaking those Fish monsters in half with one punch, and those Fish monsters looked to be a lot bigger than an Abrams Tank.

And didn't Bruce go on a speel about specifically about his regen, about when he tried to shoot himself in the head and the Hulk spit back out the bullet? Not to mention how easy he is able to leap on and through buildings, not to mention crash through them from great distances.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL. I have several times now. Beginning of the fight, Abomination kicked his ass, end of the fight when Hulk was stabbed, bleeding and pushed against the wall and Betty was in danger, his eyes glowed and he used pure physical strength to overpower the guy who had been clearly stomping him before.

Nooo your still ignoring the point. I know your saying he got stronger right at the end of the fight. I get that.

What I'm saying is Where was the Strength Increase the Rest of the Bloody fight when he was getting his Ass Whooped! You keep ignoring that point.

Originally posted by Robtard
Correct, Norton was was more subtle with Hulk's powers, the visual wasn't as in your face as Bana-Hulk growing to be 18 feet tall nor was it outright said.

Assuming that strength increase did exist with Norton's Hulk, then it was very very subtle.

But my point is it wasn't consistent either (only happened right at the very end of the Abom fight), so can't be relied upon.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've never argued that 03 Hulk would lose to 08 Hulk, that's a clear stomp in 03's favor. This fight is about 03 Hulk and 2012 Hulk. While 2012 is supposed to be the same character as 08 Hulk, he's clearly been improved in the Avengers film.

Yeah and I think Bana Hulk still wins. (Though this at least would be a fight).

At base strength Ruffalo Hulk starts out stronger (seemingly). But Bana Hulk increases strength too quickly. Plus there's the proven healing factor. And the speed. So Bana Hulk is still superior by a fair bit.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
I do realise that eye color changes do not signify strength increase.

going by what I saw he'd get slightly smarter since against those sonic weapons he decided to use a shield after said eye color change.

or when he fought abom he was getting his ass whooped majority of the fight the up & decided he'd use a weapon. & get abom in a position where he couldn't fight back.

LOL