Ultimate Sith Fight Winner Take All

Originally posted by Nephthys
The response changes depending on what you ask Visas to do when she goes to the dead body. The first option ("Tell me what you saw."😉 leads to "I saw a graveyard world, surrounded by a fleet of dead ships. I felt it through him... as I feel it through you." Second ("What did you see when you looked at him?"😉 leads to "A man and nothing more".

Have I mentioned that I love the writing for Kotor 2 yet? 😍

I really love the writing, too...

KotoR I and KotoR II are better by themselves than the Prequel movies..

Too bad they couldn't be made into films.

If Obsidian could have done Kotor 3 before Bioware made Swtor I would have orgasmed in my panties for days on end.

Originally posted by ares834
Too bad the plot was shit. 😉

You fvcking suck, you useless piece of shit.

Nah, he's right.

Originally posted by dgeoro_scattere
Nah, he's right.

Originally posted by ares834
Too bad the plot was shit. 😉

KOTOR I and KOTOR II have great character lines and fantastic story. However, Bioware would've made the sequel much, much better than Obsidian. All those shitty plot-holes everybody complained about that eventually lead to the "Restoration Project" wouldn't have happened. The first game by far exceeds the second. I have to admit that the first time I saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvN2y9PI3s

I was all like, "OMFG NO FUC*ING WAY! THIS GAME IS AWESOME!"

Honestly, I'm not sure if Bioware would have. SWTOR is even worse than KotOR 2.

Originally posted by ares834
Honestly, I'm not sure if Bioware would have. SWTOR is even worse than KotOR 2.

Yeah, but overall their games are fantastic and they usually do manage to come up with great stories. Take Mass Effect, for example.

I'm not reading 14 pages so what's the counter for Nihlius' hax?

Originally posted by Major Valerian
KOTOR I and KOTOR II have great character lines and fantastic story. However, Bioware would've made the sequel much, much better than Obsidian. All those shitty plot-holes everybody complained about that eventually lead to the "Restoration Project" wouldn't have happened. The first game by far exceeds the second. I have to admit that the first time I saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvN2y9PI3s

I was all like, "OMFG NO FUC*ING WAY! THIS GAME IS AWESOME!"

Originally posted by Major Valerian
KOTOR I and KOTOR II have great character lines and fantastic story.

Kotor 2 exceeds Kotor in those regards by far.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
However, Bioware would've made the sequel much, much better than Obsidian. All those shitty plot-holes everybody complained about that eventually lead to the "Restoration Project" wouldn't have happened.

Yes they would. The reason those exist is because of LucasArts being massive cvnts and forcing Obsidian to release an unfinished product. Bioware would have been in the same position. Note that Bioware was providing technical assistence to Obsidian so it had nothing to do with Obsidian being crap, its all to do with a forced Christmas release.

If you want to know how crap ucasArts actually was, Obsidian did create patches that would restore plot-holes etc, but LucasArts turned them down despite the fact that the content already existed.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
The first game by far exceeds the second. I have to admit that the first time I saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvN2y9PI3s

I was all like, "OMFG NO FUC*ING WAY! THIS GAME IS AWESOME!"

Kreia >>>>>>>> M.Night Shamalam-style plot twist.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Yeah, but overall their games are fantastic and they usually do manage to come up with great stories. Take Mass Effect, for example.

And Obsidian do not?

Originally posted by Toshi
I'm not reading 14 pages so what's the counter for Nihlius' hax?

There is none, apparently.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kotor 2 exceeds Kotor in those regards by far.

Personal opinion. Whatever.

Yes they would. The reason those exist is because of LucasArts being massive cvnts and forcing Obsidian to release an unfinished product. Bioware would have been in the same position. Note that Bioware was providing technical assistence to Obsidian so it had nothing to do with Obsidian being crap, its all to do with a forced Christmas release.

Well, f*ck LucasArts, then. I still believe, though, that Bioware would've done a better job.

If you want to know how crap ucasArts actually was, Obsidian did create patches that would restore plot-holes etc, but LucasArts turned them down despite the fact that the content already existed.

I did not know that. F*ck LucasArts a little bit more.

Kreia >>>>>>>> M.Night Shamalam-style plot twist.

What does Kreia have to do with that? I never even mentioned her. I just said I loved the Revan revelation.

And Obsidian do not?

Never said they didn't.

Edit - Although, I do agree. Obsidian did a great job with the game, too. Now that I know all those things you said, I couldn't agree more.

You could have been concise and said "Nuh uh".

Originally posted by Battlemaster
There is none, apparently.

Anakin and Dooku might have one. But I doubt they would win even if they survive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And Obsidian do not?

Not really. Most of their games aren't great.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kotor 2 exceeds Kotor in those regards by far.

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. Most of their games aren't great.

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. Most of their games aren't great.

I can't think of a bad Obsidian game off of the top of my head. Can you elaborate?

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. Most of their games aren't great.

And THAT. Even though what he said convinced me about it all not being Obsidian's fault, their games are not as good as Bioware's.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Personal opinion. Whatever.

As a literature student, I feel qualified to say that Kotor 2 was better in terms of character development/establishment and had a better written story. For one it actually had themes and was brilliant enough to pull off complex deconstruction and weave gameplay mechanics into the story.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Well, f*ck LucasArts, then. I still believe, though, that Bioware would've done a better job.

Personal opinion. 😉

Nah, but fine. I disagree, but whatevs.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
I did not know that. F*ck LucasArts a little bit more.

Yes, they were very shitty.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
What does Kreia have to do with that? I never even mentioned her. I just said I loved the Revan revelation.

As did I (Even though i already knew about it before I played the game. I actually guessed that I was Revan in Kotor 2 because I played that one first. Whoops).

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Never said they didn't.

Good. estahuh