Ultimate Sith Fight Winner Take All

He can?

Idk. But Sidious has a Gary-Stu like effect on other people. Except Luke and Vader. He uses the Force to a degree that only a Skywalker can truly take him out. Otherwise some deus ex machina will allow him to survive.

If this were taking place in a book, yes, but that's not the case here.

Originally posted by dgeoro_scattere
He can?

The jury's still out atm, but it looks unlikely.

Originally posted by dgeoro_scattere
If this were taking place in a book, yes, but that's not the case here.

Only speculation, but per Fact File #104, Sidious was directly behind the Dark Reaper operation after learning about it from Sith Holocrons and intended to use Dooku and a team of dark side adepts to unleash the weapon against approved targets. It stands to reason that Sidious knew the defense if Dooku did (either through his own sources or demanding it from Dooku), but it's not certain he did.

But then I always see the counter argument that the Reaper and the h4x are different rendering Qel Droma's technique irrelevant.

The effects are the same even if the processes are different.

Telekinesis can be resisted.
Force lightning can be resisted.
Mind domination can be resisted.
Force drain, also, can be resisted. Why give this only ability so much hype? While drain is unknown for Jedi of PT as they never faced it, it isn't true for Rule of Two Sith.
EU showed enough that Force techniques can be resisted by acquiring experience from encountering them or by mastering them personally. And mastery of a particular technique implies that user can utilize it as well as defend against it.

Originally posted by Arhael
Telekinesis can be resisted.
Force lightning can be resisted.
Mind domination can be resisted.
Force drain, also, can be resisted. Why give this only ability so much hype? While drain is unknown for Jedi of PT as they never faced it, it isn't true for Rule of Two Sith.
EU showed enough that Force techniques can be resisted by acquiring experience from encountering them or by mastering them personally. And mastery of a particular technique implies that user can utilize it as well as defend against it.

I wouldn't discard the possibility that at least some information on the drain was available for PT Jedi in the Jedi Archives.

Who cares if they can defend the dtechnique or not. In this case, it isnlt about the technique but who's using it. I can defend against a punch. But who;s throwing the punch? I can defend against it with my younger brother but can i block a punch from prime Mike Tyson? I know how to counter a leglock but can I do it when POaull Harris grabs a hold of me? Same with SW I can defend against lightnign from Count Dooku but can i stop a Force Storm from Darth Revan? Maybe if Yoda knows the defence he can block it form Kreia. Maybe. But can he block the same attack that killed quite possibly, hundreds of Miralukas on Taris? That killed the entire planet? Perhaps you should ask Juhani that. I'm sure whe'd be all too happy to tell you want happened to ehr brothers and sisters when Nihilus descended upon her homeworld in his sith flagship.

Originally posted by Arhael
[B]Telekinesis can be resisted.

But who can resist telekinesis that can force crush an entire planet?

Force lightning can be resisted.

See abovr.

Mind domination can be resisted.

See abovr.

Force drain, also, can be resisted. Why give this only ability so much hype? While drain is unknown for Jedi of PT as they never faced it, it isn't true for Rule of Two Sith.
EU showed enough that Force techniques can be resisted by acquiring experience from encountering them or by mastering them personally. And mastery of a particular technique implies that user can utilize it as well as defend against it.

Count Dooku has been described as a "Master" of force lihgtning. Obi-Wan blocked it withe ase before he even masters Soresu in The Phantom Menace. Clearly, there is one thing being a master, and another thing being able to make redrum an entire planet bro.

I doubt Sidious would allow Dooku to use a force stripping machine unless he [Sidious] had a defense against it. It's out of his character. He is too much of a paranoid person.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Who cares if they can defend the dtechnique or not. In this case, it isnlt about the technique but who's using it. I can defend against a punch. But who;s throwing the punch? I can defend against it with my younger brother but can i block a punch from prime Mike Tyson? I know how to counter a leglock but can I do it when POaull Harris grabs a hold of me? Same with SW I can defend against lightnign from Count Dooku but can i stop a Force Storm from Darth Revan? Maybe if Yoda knows the defence he can block it form Kreia. Maybe. But can he block the same attack that killed quite possibly, hundreds of Miralukas on Taris? That killed the entire planet? Perhaps you should ask Juhani that. I'm sure whe'd be all too happy to tell you want happened to ehr brothers and sisters when Nihilus descended upon her homeworld in his sith flagship.

It's Visas, you're thinking of. But you have a valid point.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
I wouldn't discard the possibility that at least some information on the drain was available for PT Jedi in the Jedi Archives.

But who can resist telekinesis that can force crush an entire planet?

Originally posted by Arhael
I don't deny it. But teachings of how to fight it were lost. Because there was no need for it as for the last thousand years Sith were thought to be extinct. And Jedi couldn't learn it by practicing either as no one was able to drain the Force among Jedi and it would be weird, if they could. 🙂

Right...Even so I'd imagine the PT Jedi had some knowledge on Nihilus/Kreia and that they used Force drain, so it wouldn't be like they were totally oblivious to the effects of the technique in question, and therefore could conceive of a possible defence for it.

I guess only Dart Bandon.

Dart Bandon, hmm...isn't he like an evil twin to the mighty Darth Bandon, huh? 😄

I really hate the name of this thread. All I think when I read it is: Old Darth Vader was stomping around...

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I really hate the name of this thread. All I think when I read it is: Old Darth Vader was stomping around...

Seems fitting to me 🙂

Originally posted by axel_jovan
Right...Even so I'd imagine the PT Jedi had some knowledge on Nihilus/Kreia and that they used Force drain, so it wouldn't be like they were totally oblivious to the effects of the technique in question, and therefore could conceive of a possible defence for it.

Kreia says that theres no defense. Considering she's pretty much the foremost scholar on the technique, I take her word. At the least, if she thinks theres no defense, then I doubt many other character can contraduct her.