Originally posted by quanchi112
I merely went into the fact why Lucifer got away with what he got away with and why I wouldn't see that occurring to Thanos.1.a) I read the series. I do realize Fenris was at his best while Lucifer was not. You do bring up a valid point. Lucifer is weakened outside the Presence's power. Thus he's weakened in a neutral thread.
b)That's false. The only thing Lucifer successfully accomplished was goading fenris into close quarters combat. That's when he beat him.
c)That's false. He was bested in his own comic. You're exaggerating his opponents. Michael easily bested Lucifer while Sandolphon defeated Michael in battle.
Lucifer is very beatable and like you said weaker outside the Presence's power.
Why do it seem that everything you said it bullshit, Its true i havent read Lucifer in years. I read it ONCE.
That he controlled the explosion to protect himself. He also molded the entire multiverse, including the suns, the planets, time, physics.
You lied about fenris being a weak character. You lied about him being less smart then thanos, He was depowered and yet outsmarted gods. Lucifer i mean.
Your a liar in every shape and form.
When he was destroyed and death tried to come for him did death succed? Thus Lucifer is beyond death. The place were angels go to die was not strong enough for Lucifers presance and was destroyed when he was there. You forgot that too all those years ago. LOL LIAR
Originally posted by TheMaskHe controlled the detonation and then used the energy to create due to this. That's accurate.
That he controlled the explosion to protect himself. He also molded the entire multiverse, including the suns, the planets, time, physics.You lied about fenris being a weak character. You lied about him being less smart then thanos, He was depowered and yet outsmarted gods. Lucifer i mean.
Your a liar in every shape and form.
When he was destroyed and death tried to come for him did death succed? Thus Lucifer is beyond death. The place were angels go to die was not strong enough for Lucifers presance and was destroyed when he was there. You forgot that too all those years ago. LOL LIAR
Fenris wasn't entirely weak. Fenris was my favorite character from his series by far. Thanos imo is far smarter and goes up against far more than Lucifer.
Lucifer isn't stronger than marvel's death or even death itself.
Yeah cause Death is so great she got made a fool of by people like grandmaster, and other weak beings wow im so impressed by her. As usual you say shit that is pointless. Where does it ever show DC death being weak. Its not really the point though is it? Lucifer is beyond death and thus the fight is His cause he is way stronger then Thanos.
But you admitted to Odins galaxy busting powers in another thread thus he stops at Odin thank you.
Originally posted by TheMaskDc's death isn't marvel's death. It's like saying all death gods are created equal.
Yeah cause Death is so great she got made a fool of by people like grandmaster, and other weak beings wow im so impressed by her. As usual you say shit that is pointless. Where does it ever show DC death being weak. Its not really the point though is it? Lucifer is beyond death and thus the fight is His cause he is way stronger then Thanos.But you admitted to Odins galaxy busting powers in another thread thus he stops at Odin thank you.
Thanos has resisted far greater and Odin himself on panel.
Originally posted by TheMaskThe cc never put him to sleep on his own. It's also capable of universal power while Fenris is not.
yeah like when he got put to sleep by the cosmic cube, or when he got his ass handed to him by galactus which sad feat do you prefer? Lol LOOK AT ME IM THANOS IM IN LOVE WITH DEATH WHO REJECTS ME CONSTANTLY Maybe you can be his ***** quanchi and comfort him.
You need to get a hold of yourself.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I read it once years ago too but I still remember this stuff. My mind is sharp.
Your mind is not as sharp as you think. I've read the series several times and a recently as last summer. I can say with certainty that nearly everything you've claimed about it is a misrepresentation. I literally assume you have just read the Wikipedia article.
As soon as I get to a computer, I'll do the work of setting you straight.
Originally posted by Dream StuffPlease do so. I did read the entire series. It's been years and unlike most I don't search through respect threads or wikipedia.
Your mind is not as sharp as you think. I've read the series several times and a recently as last summer. I can say with certainty that nearly everything you've claimed about it is a misrepresentation. I literally assume you have just read the Wikipedia article.As soon as I get to a computer, I'll do the work of setting you straight.
Once you begin posting scans I will put in my hard drive and destroy you. Your suffering will be legendary even in kmc.
Forgive me if I am, at times, a little redundant. I just want to avoid any later confusion. Also, forgive me for having to describe things instead of posting scans for now. I have the digital files on a different system, but I have the TPBs right in front of me.
A) QUANCHI: I read the series. I do realize Fenris was at his best while Lucifer was not. You do bring up a valid point. Lucifer is weakened outside the Presence's power. Thus he's weakened in a neutral thread.
1. For the record, you admit that the spear incident is not a valid demonstration of Lucifer’s durability as he was explicitly depowered at that time.
2. Your argument is that Lucifer will be depowered in a forum match because Yaweh is not around in the forum? From the Forum Rules: “all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes.”Therefore, Lucifer will be at full power.
B) QUANCHI: That's false.
1. After Lucifer blows up Fenris’ head, the child of the Basanos (an extremely powerful reality-warper, mind you) is shocked that Lucifer was still so strong. She said, “But—But—You were powerless! When I attacked you in the Hogan—when Fenris threw his spear—“
Lucifer replied, “I reserved my power. Those weren’t life-or-death situations. Not quite. At some point, I knew I’d be inside Fenris’s Guard. I’d have hated to turn up empty handed.” The child of the Basanos then literally begged for her life.
Moral of the page: even though he was depowered, he was only ever hurt because he let himself be hurt.
C) QUANCHI: Michael easily bested Lucifer while Sandolphon defeated Michael in battle.
1. Michael never bested Lucifer in combat. Yaweh plucked Lucifer from the battlefield during the war in heaven to offer him Hell. Lucifer and Michael never finished their fight until billions of years later when they fought at Yggdrasil. Lucifer was in a madness inflicted by Fenris and both angels were badly wounded from the journey to the tree. For these reasons, it wasn’t a “clean” fight; however, Lucifer was the victor.
2. Sandolphon stabbed Michael in the back when Michael hesitated to slaughter the rebel army. Sand’s own recollection of the event is that Michael could have soloed them all if he’d been willing to("You could have ended the war right then. Ended all of us with a gesture."😉.
3.If you think Sandolphon could beat Lucifer, you’re the only one. Sandolphon, himself, let Lucifer literally *****-slap him in his own dimension and steal his most important things rather than fight (Surely any sharp-minded person who read the series would find that scene hard to forget).
So, like I said, pretty much everything you claim happened in the series is patently untrue.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He controlled the detonation and then used the energy to create due to this.
This is a good theory, but it's still only a theory. Nothing on the page explicitly contradicts the assumption that he simply endured the mulitiverse-level blast.
In fact, the words "controlled detonation" were only used once, by Michael. The expression refers to a method to limit the damage done by an explosive, including by simply isolating it from anything that could get hurt. Since Michael was killed in the void outside creation, it was literally a controlled detonation. That does not imply that the blast was lessened, nor that Lucifer protected himself by using the energy.
In fact, there is some evidence to suggest otherwise. The only other time something like that happens is when Elaine Belloc repeats the feat at Yggdrasil. Elaine has to draw the power into herself, even explicitly use it to protect herself. (Lucifer: "The power is pouring into you. And you're too small. It needs to well up from inside you. Then you'd have some chance of surviving it."😉 SHe manages to just barely do it, and thus the explosion is prevented.
Compare that to when Lucifer did it. There was a massive, immediate explosion right in his face. He did not appear to take any power into himself, he simply set it loose. The difference is clear.
But like I said, whether he has multiverse-level durability or multiverse-level energy manipulation, the feat still puts him way, way, way out of Thanos' league.