Originally posted by h1a8
Here's the scenario:The only way Glads would lose is if he doesn't use his speed in the beginning and Thor capitalizes and wins the fight fast.
If Glads uses his speed early then Thor won't get a chance to do anything useful (if anything at all) and Glads wins the fight fast.
If Glads doesn't use his speed early and Thor starts winning but doesn't fully capitalize and plays around with him then Glads decides to use it later then Glads wins.
So Glads wins 2 out of 3.
Here's the better scenario:
The only way Thor would lose is if he doesn't use his Most Powerful Omni-Directional Blasts in the beginning and Glads capitalizes by speed blitzing Thor while he's busy eating.
If Thor uses his Most Powerful Omni-Directional blasts early then Glads won't get a chance to do anything useful (if anything at all) and Thor wins the fight fast.
If Thor doesn't use his Most Powerful Omni-Blast early and Glads starts winning but doesn't fully capitalize on the speed blitz when Thor is eating and plays around with him then Thor decides to get serious later then Thor wins.
So Thor wins 4 out of 5 (while eating).
Originally posted by DARTH POWERGlads can hit Thor before Thor tries an omnidirectional blast, preventing him from ever doing it.
Here's the better scenario:The only way Thor would lose is if he doesn't use his Most Powerful Omni-Directional Blasts in the beginning and Glads capitalizes by speed blitzing Thor while he's busy eating.
If Glads uses his speed then Thor won't get a chance to do anything. Remember Glads is faster.If Thor uses his Most Powerful Omni-Directional blasts early then Glads won't get a chance to do anything useful (if anything at all) and Thor wins the fight fast.
Again Thor will never get a chance to do this if Glads uses speed.
If Thor doesn't use his Most Powerful Omni-Blast early and Glads starts winning but doesn't fully capitalize on the speed blitz when Thor is eating and plays around with him then Thor decides to get serious later then Thor wins.So Thor wins 4 out of 5 (while eating).
Originally posted by h1a8
Glads can hit Thor before Thor tries an omnidirectional blast, preventing him from ever doing it.
One hit won't prevent anything.
And if you actually think Gladiator can think about an attack, move toward Thor and get in enough punches on Thor to finish him before Thor can even THINK (which is all Thor has to do before he unleashes a Light Speed Omni-Blast).... Then I can't help you.
If speedsters like Gladiator and Surfer were really that much faster than Thor could even THINK then it would never have been made clear from Thor and Surfer's very first meeting that Surfer was no match for Thor.
Loki knew it (which is why he had to amp Surfer for Surfer to even have a chance), Surfer himself knew it. And that comic was written by Stan the Man himself.
Compare that to Surfer's first clash with Hulk, where it was made clear from that Surfer was too fast for Hulk. So it's been made clear from the Classic days that Thor's not out of his league against Speedsters.
Thor was the top dog. End of.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
HOw is this still open and going on for this long... This is much like the CA vs. Batman... Sure Batman can put up a decent fight.. but in the end.. we all know CA wins... This is much the same here... Close the thread so we don't have to suffer through anymore desperate posts from certain Glads supporters.
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Originally posted by MF DELPH👆
I'd give Thor a hard fought majority out of 10, but I don't think that plot based encounters in the books completely determine what would occur in a forum fight (Hulk Vs. Gladiator, for example). Despite the hate his supporters engender, Gladiator isn't a punk.
Although, after rereading the Hulk/Gladiator fight, it's not nearly as bad as I remembered:
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Mindless Hulk vs Gladiator from Incredible Hulk Annual 1997:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator01Annual1997.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator06.jpg
^ Doesn't actually look like Hulk had to deal with Glads speed. And the anti-Thor argument usually goes: Thor dealing with speedsters is the same PIS as when Hulk dealt with Gladiator's speed.
Originally posted by DickBlazer
Lol at surfer being no match for thor.
That's how it was portrayed in their first meeting, and was clearly the intended food chain at the time.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
👆Although, after rereading the Hulk/Gladiator fight, it's not nearly as bad as I remembered:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator01Annual1997.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator03.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator06.jpg [/B]
That whole fight was pure Exlax fuled crap. 🙄
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Someone's in the final stages of a Hulk respect thread.
👆Although, after rereading the Hulk/Gladiator fight, it's not nearly as bad as I remembered:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator01Annual1997.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator06.jpg [/B]
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYou don't understand. Thor only omniblasts when he is against multiple opponents, not a single opponent. So if Thor can omniblast then Glads can fight at full speed and prevent Thor from doing anything by continuing to rock him. You can't think if you are rocked. Also Glads can attack with punches, hv, freeze breath all simultaneously from various angles and from behind. He doesn't usually fight like that but neither does Thor omniblast against single humanoid opponents. So again Thor loses that battle and my scenario is the truth, not yours.
One hit won't prevent anything.And if you actually think Gladiator can think about an attack, move toward Thor and get in enough punches on Thor to finish him before Thor can even THINK (which is all Thor has to do before he unleashes a Light Speed Omni-Blast).... Then I can't help you.
That's not the way comics work. Comics purposely and constantly ignore speed to create a matchup. Surfer and Glads fought many slow beings in comics. From the Hulk, to thing, to etc. for their entire career.If speedsters like Gladiator and Surfer were really that much faster than Thor could even THINK then it would never have been made clear from Thor and Surfer's very first meeting that Surfer was no match for Thor.
And it was made clear that Surfer didn't use his speed against the Hulk and many other slower beings in other confrontations.Compare that to Surfer's first clash with Hulk, where it was made clear from that Surfer was too fast for Hulk. So it's been made clear from the Classic days that Thor's not out of his league against Speedsters.
Thor was the top dog. End of.
Thor's not out of his league against speedsters because speedsters miraculously forget they have speed against Thor. Marvel is not stupid.
Bottom line Glads and Surfer didn't use their top speed against Thor ever. If they did then Thor would have lost. Writer's know this, fans know this. Writer's know Thor is popular and makes them money. Add it up.
