The Heart of the Universe is universal, not multiversal. Heck, the term multiverse was never specifically mentioned in the series.
Now. I'm not accepting vague terminology like all-reality or omni-reality as a substitute for multiverse unless the multiverse or other universes have specifically been mentioned. Especially when all-reality has been used interchangeably with universe.
Let's start by looking at a few of the opening pages.
"Of course I was destined to annihilate the universe."
"But I did not destroy the universe for reasons you would assume."
"Rule #1 of this merciless universe: ..."
In fact, throughout the story Thanos is very clear on what he meant.
"Do you truly believe that the universe will allow you to rule it Titan?"
"All was not right with the universe."
"The universe was doomed and I could not save it."
And so were the gods.
"'Tis also their universe that be imperiled."
"It doth sound as if you speak of the imminent destruction of the universe."
"And now he radiates the might of a prime universal force."
Even Akhenaten references the universe.
"Only then will all be set right within the universe."
And the Living Tribunal riled up the warriors of the universe, not the multiverse.
"The Living Tribunal and his allies were calling the universe to arms."
"Unaware that the universe was rallying against me,"
Even at the end of the series Thanos leave no ambiguity to the subject at hand.
"Adam Walrock, only you could somehow miss the end of the universe."
"... and that is how the universe came to an end."
And Adam confirms it one more time.
"Yes I can sense the universe resuming its full glory and scope."
Originally posted by Blockythe1guy
Are we really trying to think that LT is universal now because of HOTU?LT had done some multiversal feats too and HOTU is beyond LT. Why not think the same thing with it?
No. LT is as powerful as he needs to be, as powerful as TOAA wants him to be. So he is Multiversal, Megaversal or even Omniversal if needed. The HOTU was a fake omnipotency/omnisciency granted by TOAA to humiliate Thanos. Since everything was planned by TOAA, the master of LT, and the only realy omniscient and omnipotent being in that story, LT had to fall, if he wanted it or not. This was not a power battle, or battle who has the greater scope of power, LT obviously, more depth of power in his reality (Universe), the HOTU it seems, or raw power in general, it was just a play orchestrated by TOAA even if most of the actors were not aware of it.
As for LT holding two comic companies in his hands. Well offcially we go by comics and comics only, and the statement in that comic was clear as day, it were just two megaverses he held in his hand. If you go by unofficial sources and sources not accepted by KMC you could try to enforce your biased point of view and pretend it were two comic companies, but even then, those two comic companis are no real life companies as marvel only owns one, itself, as far as I know and the other ficitional company is, since it appeared in a marvel only comic, property of marvel, so LT held two Marvel ficional companies. In the comic though it were just megaverses.
He never held DC, that is a fact, as DC never officialy was a megaverse in the Marvel Omniverse and was never created by LT or belonged to Marvel. A single person is not the company and without a companies approve can't use the logo, names or anything else from that company, their opinions don't matter.
Very very simple.
Originally posted by Galan007On a separate occasion, Thanos outright stated THOTI was "The ULTIMATE in power.":
http://i.imgur.com/UmhcB0f.jpg...And as you can see,
that statement was made just after Thanos had also recalled obtaining/wielding a CCU and the classic IG.
So yeah,
according to a character who has actually possessed every one of the aforementioned powers/relics, THOTI>>>ALL. 👆
Originally posted by StoicDoes anyone have any scans of CA Superman doing any better than what Thanos did?
I mean if we are going to scrutinize one, why not place the light on the other?
Originally posted by Blockythe1guyAre we really trying to think that LT is universal now because of HOTU?
LT had done some multiversal feats too and HOTU is beyond LT.
Why not think the same thing with it?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=604514&pagenumber=10
A Megaverse is/was an entire Comic book company according to the person who invented the term "megaverse".
The LT is always the same no matter what/where/why he showed up.
The LT is ALWYAS the SAME!
There is no such thing as fragmented/pieces of LTs with less power running around. 😂
That's absolute bull shit ... I challenge any troll to prove that fallacy with on panel proof and/or handbooks.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Even if defeating the HOTU would be against the will of LT's boss, TOAA, who planned everything and who decides how much power LT has?
Everybody who loses does so because it is the will of the TOAA. This isn't specific to the LT 😛
Originally posted by krisblaze
This is true, but the LT still seems to reside at multiversal by default.Everybody who loses does so because it is the will of the TOAA. This isn't specific to the LT 😛
Ok, a second approach uhuh
The IG makes you the absolute ruler of your Universe and you can beat Multiversals in your own realm, so THOTU which is even greater than the IG in it's Universe should be able to do the same without being more then Universal.
Originally posted by VastoLord1234
If the HOTU took out the living tribunal, i doubt its only universal.
We saw on panel the HOTU is purely universal, and does not grant universal omniscience.
LT also has been shown on panel to have a fragment of itself in each universe, Thanos only killed a fragment of the LT.
Originally posted by VastoLord1234👆
If the HOTU took out the living tribunal, i doubt its only universal.
Whether or not Thanos destroyed/recreated one universe or one million universes is entirely irrelevant. He killed LT. His depth of power was beyond nearly anyone/thing else in Marvel. Period.
And like I mentioned before: Thanos also stated THOTI was beyond a CCU and the classic IG:
"I searched out and acquired the ULTIMATE in power. The Heart of the Universe..."
...And both of those relics have multi-universal feats at the very least. So yeah, he was clearly more than a mere universal force.
Originally posted by Galan007
👆Whether or not Thanos destroyed/recreated one universe or one million universes is entirely irrelevant. He killed LT. His depth of power was beyond nearly anyone/thing else in Marvel. Period.
And like I mentioned before: Thanos also stated THOTI was beyond a CCU and the classic IG:
"I searched out and acquired the ULTIMATE in power. The Heart of the Universe..."...And both of those relics have multi-universal feats at the very least. So yeah, he was clearly more than a mere universal force.
In that very picture Thanos states that his destruction with the IG and cosmic cube were purely universal. Thanos also states he had only ever achieved "universal destruction in the past.
Thanos has never gone beyond Universal, and that panel reinforces the on panel statement that the HOTU was purely universal as well.
Originally posted by Galan007
👆Whether or not Thanos destroyed/recreated one universe or one million universes is entirely irrelevant. He killed LT. His depth of power was beyond nearly anyone/thing else in Marvel. Period.
And like I mentioned before: Thanos also stated THOTI was beyond a CCU and the classic IG:
"I searched out and acquired the ULTIMATE in power. The Heart of the Universe..."...And both of those relics have multi-universal feats at the very least. So yeah, he was clearly more than a mere universal force.
Your bias sickens me sneer
