...to make a point that saved the ground level swat guys.
(Resulting on further McWin)
Nakatomi was one big terrorist compound....and McClane was armed with one 9mm Beretta. This of course meant death for Hans and his men.
And when he smote them, he did it as selflessly as the time when he took on the intercept force in the bottleneck who had taken out the airport security forces, and when he risked his ass to try avert the crashing of the london flight, and the plethora of other displays of McHeroism throughout his movies.
Originally posted by Robtard
I do like how you arbitrarily declare what should or shouldn't count as a kill.In that case, I'm going to declare that the only kills that now count are kills done by a flying car into a helicopter. McClane 1 Bauer 0.
Bauer still can't pass the DH Gauntlet.
He'd be lucky to make it past Run DMC.
Yeah, because it's not like Bauer has sacrificed himself many times, including allowing his archnemesis to murder him without repercussion just because the president said she would get immunity if she gave up info about the nuke
Also, how skilled were those mercs? Because Jack single-handedly slaughtered a black ops team that reported directly to the head of the NSA in about 15 minutes WITHOUT GETTING SHOT TWICE, AFTER a plane crash
BTW, Jack's faced far worse than Colonel Stuarts plot. On Day 7, a genocidal African warlord and his mercs were threatening to destroy the infrastructure of the US. 10 hours later, Bauer had the device, the head guy in custody, and everybody else was dead. And 16,000 DID NOT die horribly from pesticide poisoning, which Bauer only found out about an hour prior
Originally posted by Lestov16
It counts as a kill, just not an impressive one and one Bauer couldn't easily pull off
LoL, someone killing 15 Special Forces guy with a single stroke of his thumb isn't impressive. LoL. I LoL'd.
And no, Bauer couldn't by your own admission, he's retardedly reckless as you have implied he would have killed Stuart H2H (just cos) and then charged inside plane, which would have resulted in 15 (or so) guys stomping him. So Bauer clearly can't get past DH2.
Originally posted by Lestov16
But he did. Because he did. Are you saying he doesn't take out large groups of commandos/mercs/terrorists on an hourly basis? Do you have proof?
Please show proof of Bauer being able to take out a group of armed Special Forces guys in the confines of a plane with just his hands. Go.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Who ever said he was using just his hands? Unlike McClane, Jack can actually take on large groups of armed hostiles in a gunfight and NOT get shot twice
In that scenario, he'd not have a gun.
You also have claimed that he would have defeated Stuart H2H and "broken the pilot's neck", so you clearly accepted that Bauer could handle that scene sans a gun like McClane did. He couldn't he have died and failed the DH2 test.
Shot twice? He was shot twice in DH4, but once was buy his own hands and for the purpose of winning the day. That takes balls, balls Bauer dreams he had.
Well hes a pussy who cant take his lead. 😛
He preferred to use Hans' own explosives against him in a situation where doing so was simply the most expedient way in which to save lives. Three fold:
1) By saving the SWAT guys Hans' guys were assaulting, by taking out the guys doing the assaulting with the RPGs..
2) By making sure that Hans had less C4 with which to hurt the innocent with
3) By making sure that as he assessed that Hans had enough to orbit Arnold Schwarzenegger, he also ensured the making of T2 and many other movies by ensuring that that did not happen.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So if McClane won that fight against Stuart, what would have happened? Or, like I'm thinking, was him losing that fight just the plot gods having to come in and rescue him
You mean what if Stuart didn't BFR McClane, as the fight wasn't finished, McClane was still getting up.
The same outcome, he's not stupid enough to charge inside a plane filled with armed Special Forces guys and try and H2H them.That's something idiotic Bauer would attempt, apparently.
Originally posted by Robtard
You mean what if Stuart didn't BFR McClane, as the fight wasn't finished, McClane was still getting up.The same outcome, he's not stupid enough to charge inside a plane filled with armed Special Forces guys and try and H2H them.That's something idiotic Bauer would attempt, apparently.
Buaer would have shot them all before they boarded. He has feats that prove this.
you say McClane can do the same thing? He can take out terrorist compounds using only a handgun and not get shot? Really? Can I see this proof, which you fail to represent