Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It doesnt need have that power now, with Bauer's dodgy ticker.
Does Bauer have some heart condition I don't know about? WOW. So not only are providing false feats for McClane, but now you are coming up with false weaknesses for Bauer?? For Shame 🙁 ....
Unless you saying that and hour and a half of electroshock torture won't kill you and is completely ineffective on a human heart? Because if so...
😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Lestov16
I'm basing it off the fact that in McClane's fight he got the shit beat out of him, whereas in Bauer's fight, at his physically weakest, he did a wall-run neck snapBauer>>>Guy who kicks McClane's ass
Bauer>>>McClaneThis is kindergarten logic...
Agreed, you are using kindergarten logic:
McClane got kicked off a plane wing by Stuart and Bauer apparently never loses a fist fight, ergo Bauer's launching a car like a missile.
Does. Not. Follow. Reason.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Against a dude who who would get mauled against Karl and Targo.
Given Bauer's superhuman strength, stamina, and durability, and proven H2H skills to the point of being able to easily kill a man with his bare hands I'm seeing them all succumb to a neck snap
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
[B]And thats why it fails.
You failed Kindergarten?
It wouldnt kill McClane.
Not if emerging alive despite repeatedly close proximity to bone pulverizing explosions, resistances to bone shattering falls, gunshots and other injuries blunt trauma or otherwise have been anything so far to go by...
Nothing false about Bauer's heart attacks.
And no, I moved on. But I wish you luck with your upcoming exam! 😛
Well Karl (Even when impersonating someone with a snapped neck whilst hanging there on that chain/noose) and Targo didnt succumb to any neck snappings...
Originally posted by Lestov16
So are you saying when Jason Bourne guns down people, he's just lucky? There's a huge difference between being deadly accurate with a gun and getting your ass handed to you until the last possible second, when the plot has to come in to save the day
No I'm saying they are both lucky in the sense that they don't get killed in the various gunfights they've been in. If you say the calibre of opposition is amazingly high in the world of Bauer and Bourne why do their enemies continually miss them in gunfights? You mentioned Bauer getting tortured, the fact he wasn't killed outright would be lucky would it not?
You call McClane lucky but ignore it when Bauer escapes 8 seasons worth of gunfights or a trapped torture situation.
Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, you are using kindergarten logic:
The fact that you and Sadako can't comprehend this Kindergarten logic is just further proof that you need to stop drinking all that McBallsweat and start using common sense
Originally posted by Robtard
McClane got kicked off a plane wing by Stuart and Bauer apparently never loses a fist fight, ergo Bauer's launching a car like a missile.
What?
This is not what I stated at all. we are talking about a H2H match and gunfight. How does the McCar Launch (which you STILL haven't proven Bauer can't replicate) have anything to do with that
I love how you are hanging onto that "car launch" feat for dear life. Especially after I "dominated" your "McClane dominates F-35" claims. Hilarious that it's THE ONLY FEAT YOU CAN PRODUCE out of FOUR films that Bauer does not completely outclass McClane in doing even better, and even then, that's just because Bauer never found himself in that particular circumstances
Originally posted by Robtard
Must.Suck.Whitestuff.From.McBaldhead
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Originally posted by Lestov16
The fact that you and Sadako can't comprehend this Kindergarten logic is just further proof that you need to stop drinking all that McBallsweat and start using common senseWhat?
This is not what I stated at all. we are talking about a H2H match and gunfight. How does the McCar Launch (which you [b]STILL
haven't proven Bauer can't replicate) have anything to do with thatI love how you are hanging onto that "car launch" feat for dear life. Especially after I "dominated" your "McClane dominates F-35" claims. Hilarious that it's THE ONLY FEAT YOU CAN PRODUCE out of FOUR films that Bauer does not completely outclass McClane in doing even better, and even then, that's just because Bauer never found himself in that particular circumstances
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This thread is about Bauer doing a DH gauntet, which I was clearly referring to the whole time, not "McClane Vs Bauer H2H", we have that going in another thread already. So it seems if someone failed basic schooling, it's you.
Bauer clearly couldn't pass this gauntlet. It's not fro me to prove that Bauer couldn't do cartoony-feats thereby passing the films, it's for you to prove he could. Debating 101, that. You're also using the no-limit again.
You seemed fixated with homosexual activities, son. Just an observation, not hating
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Not if emerging alive despite repeatedly close proximity to bone pulverizing explosions, resistances to bone shattering falls, gunshots and other injuries blunt trauma or otherwise have been anything so far to go by.
That's all? Blunt force trauma? Jack eats blunt force trauma for breakfast,
and no, by the way, that isn't anything to go by because none of which you stated is equivalent to the power output of an hour and a half of concentrated torture, not to mention McClane usually had to take a moment after to rest and cry in his handkerchief after undergoing it
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nothing false about Bauer's heart attacks.
Nothing false about McClane getting the ****ing crap kicked out of him on the plane
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And no, I moved on.
Because you lost the argument. Okay. It makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well Karl (Even when impersonating someone with a snapped neck whilst hanging there on that chain/noose) and Targo didnt succumb to any neck snappings...
Because they fought "Crying like a biznitch" John McClane, and not "Rip your throat out with his teeth" Jack Bauer
Originally posted by Robtard
This thread is about Bauer doing a DH gauntet, which I was clearly referring to the whole time, not "McClane Vs Bauer H2H". So it seems if someone failed basic schooling, it's you.Bauer clearly couldn't pass this gauntlet. It's not fro me to prove that Bauer couldn't do cartoony-feats thereby passing the film, it's for you to prove he could. Debating 101, that. You're also using the no-limit again.
You seemed fixated with homosexual activities, son. Just an observation, not hating
I apologize for this lapse in logic. I'll admit I got a little carried away. That said...
When was this officially announced. There's nothing to suggest Bauer can't take it, since he's taken on far worse.
And Bauer? What about McClane? Are we just going to forget that he still has to find the Dobson Override in 2 hours or every nuclear reactor in the US will undergo a meltdown? Please do indulge me on how he's going to do this
Appreciate 😎
Originally posted by Lestov16
I apologize for this lapse in logic. I'll admit I got a little carried away. That said...When was this officially announced. There's nothing to suggest Bauer can't take it, since he's taken on far worse.
And Bauer? What about McClane? Are we just going to forget that he still has to find the Dobson Override in 2 hours or every nuclear reactor in the US will undergo a meltdown? Please do indulge me on how he's going to do this
Appreciate 😎
Happens.
Again, Bauer is simply not cartoony enough. Thor's taken out an army of Frost Giants, he's not passing 'Searching for Bobby Fischer' though cos of it, he simply doesn't have the chess feats.
Again, I've not seen 24 so I can't comment of exact plot points and McClane's ability to overcome them, but as noted, McClane's done a lot with little to no back and resources, if he had the CTU, Government Agents and Mercs helping him, who is to say.
Originally posted by Lestov16
That's all? Blunt force trauma? Jack eats blunt force trauma for breakfast,and no, by the way, that isn't anything to go by because none of which you stated is equivalent to the power output of an hour and a half of concentrated torture, not to mention McClane usually had to take a moment after to rest and cry in his handkerchief after undergoing it
Nothing false about McClane getting the ****ing crap kicked out of him on the plane
Because you lost the argument. Okay. It makes perfect sense.
Because they fought "Crying like a biznitch" John McClane, and not "Rip your throat out with his teeth" Jack Bauer
Maybe eating all those caused the heart weakness then?
False statement. You have no way to determine whether or not McClane jumping out in your total surprise at you under a sheet will or will not fail to yield that energy.
No I left cause all of my teachers were a band of international robbers and masterminds...so naturally when McClane slaughtered them all, I was left with no course to attend. 😛
John McClane simply pumps out tears to allow for more pound for pound kickassness at a cellular, and even sub atomic level.
As DH1 showed...when his feet cry blood, or his eyes bleed steely tears, terrorists die.
Originally posted by Robtard
I think the lad means Bauer could have bitten the Colonel,
To be fair, who hasn't bitten the colonel? 😛
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
To kill two teams of fort bragg trained mercs flying away from him on a 747?
He actually allowed it to get to the point that they escaped?! LOL! Bauer would have killed them all before they could have even boarded that plane
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Maybe eating all those caused the heart weakness then?False statement. You have no way to determine whether or not McClane jumping out in your total surprise at you under a sheet will or will not fail to yield that energy.
No I left cause all of my teachers were a band of international robbers and masterminds...so naturally when McClane slaughtered them all, I was left with no course to attend. 😛
John McClane simply pumps out tears to allow for more pound for pound kickassness at a cellular, and even sub atomic level.
As DH1 showed...when his feet cry blood, or his eyes bleed steely tears, terrorists die.
So....All of this post was basically a run of jokes to cover up the fact that you've lost your argument. Good 🙂
Since you brought up Colonel Stuart and McClane losing to him several times now as some basis for claiming Bauer > McClane, I must point out that if you stepped back and looked at the scene with unbiased and none McHating eyes, McClane didn't really lose.
Fact: When McClane and Stuart faced off, McClane had previously gone through several rigorous scenes, while Stuart was fresh.
Fact: Despite Stuart punching/kicking McClane down, McClane tanked it and continued to rise and press forward each time.
Fact: Stuart "won" by using the cheap BFR tactic.
Logic dictates that Stuart resorted to BFR because he realized he couldn't defeat McClane in a fight, he could only beat on him while McClane relentlessly pushed forward. In a scenario where Stuart couldn't resort to BFR tactics, McClane wins due to perseverance. /fact
Originally posted by Robtard
Since you brought up Colonel Stuart and McClane losing to him several times now as some basis for claiming Bauer > McClane, I must point out that if you stepped back and looked at the scene with unbiased and none McHating eyes, McClane didn't really lose.
Yeah he did. He got his ass kicked off the plane and then luckily noticed that there was a long line of gas leading from it. If there wasn't, McClane would have lost and the film would have been over
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: When McClane and Stuart faced off, McClane had previously gone through several rigorous scenes, while Stuart was fresh.
So ****ing what? It's hilarious considering that Bauer went through the exact same thing of facing an opponent who was fresh while he had already been (literally) pushed to his physical limits. Note that rather than getting his ass-kicked, Bauer did a wall-run neck snap
Fact: Stuart is an old ass man, so I'm surprised he's not working at some McDowell's somewhere
Fact: Stuart is not equal to Bauer on any physical level at any point during the film
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Despite Stuart punching/kicking
Because punching and kicking always outdoes a plane crash and torture to your physical limits, doesn't it?
That makes no sense whatsoever
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Stuart "won" by using the cheap BFR tactic.
Bauer would have snapped his neck. No BFR possible
Originally posted by Robtard
Logic dictates that Stuart resorted to BFR because he realized he couldn't defeat McClane in a fight, he could only beat on him while McClane relentlessly pushed forward.
Logic dictates
Bauer>>>Guy who kicked McClane's ass
Bauer>>>>>>McClane
Originally posted by Robtard
In a scenario where Stuart couldn't resort to BFR tactics, McClane wins due to perseverance. /fact
McClane can also win against Winnie the Pooh. Doesn't mean Jack shit because Bauer far outclasses Stuart in H2H and endurance