Jack Bauer vs John McClane

The fabricated proof would have put America into deeper shit, because as I said, they launched missiles at an innocent country

Fine. That particular war may not have been thermonuclear (although he will be averting such wars in the future), but it still would have been a WWIII that would have changed geopolitics as we know it

Luckily you've braved through the worst of it. She becomes less plot relevant as the show moves on

Originally posted by Lestov16
So let's go over this one more time, for all you folks playing at home

[B]1. H2H fight in a 12x12 ft steel cage ring
Based on screen feats (you can access the vid via my sig and I listed the most prominent places i nthe video where they happen) Bauer will overpower Mcclane and snap his neck

H2H-Bauer

2. Gunfight in Palisades mall. Both get a Beretta with 10 clips
Once again, based on screen feats you can see in my vid (and Jack has a lot of them), he is definitely the more experienced gunfighter

Gunfight-Bauer

3. Melee fight in the Initech office building
Jack is a very ruthless fighter who will opportunistically use any advantage in a fight

Melee fight- Bauer

4. Who is the better counterterrorist?

Of course
Contintential Pandemic>>>>>>>>Eastern Seabaord losing power (and 108 nuclear meltdowns>>>>>>ONE nuclear meltdown)

Better Counterterrorist- Bauer

Any questions? [/B]

Yes. I have a couple, like for instance: "How is it that you still dont see what a massive McWin this is"..?

And "does your downplaying of McClane and overplaying of Bauer know any realistic bounds?"

Another one would be "Is there a point to all this McButthurt, which clearly is causing you so much pain as to want to drag this out past MVF rule breaking, past any balanced debate, past all accepted reason?" ("Besides post count generation?"😉

🙂

This is actually pretty simple. By "movie" feats, McClane wins hands down. Over and out....

Originally posted by CowardlyBlakMan
This is actually pretty simple. By "movie" feats, McClane wins hands down. Over and out....

And without gimping Bauer's feats, Bauer wins hands down. Over and out....

Listen, I'm not bias. By "movie" feats (the 24 tv movie) Jack loses. I really can't see a debate about it. You try and play the 24 expanded universe by adding the tv show and debate about it on a movie vs. Sorry man, he loses over and over again by movie feats. We talk Jacks tv feats, now that would be different.

But like I said, the McClane camp are arguing even with his TV feats he still loses.

Ya I think your getting trolled man. When this place gets a everything vs's I'd love to waste tons of my time deabating about this match up. Maybe someone can make a thread saying "tv Jack Bauer vs John McClane" and make it official since the guy in charge won't, idk. Don't know how it works

Originally posted by CowardlyBlakMan
Ya I think your getting trolled man.

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Lestov has been trolling left right and centre....so no problem there, right?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Lestov has been getting trolled left right and centre....so no problem there, right?

Hey, you can enjoy trolling me all you want. Doesn't change the fact that McBytch dies horribly in any confrontation with Bauer

LOL And thats why they call it Butthurt Bauerbias....

I prefer a straight debate to all your EU troll tacs. They got old here in the Harry Potter Vs Starwars threads.

😆 Once again, the McBias and bankrupt credibility account is blatant for everyone to see

If you prefer a straight debate, why do you resort to so many troll tactics to get your precious McWin? 😂

I didn't.

It was all fair.

You on the other hand smear and spin every thing said to you to play victim when in fact being the afflicter.

EU non submittable, and Bauers non-submittable feats even if accepted as submittable fail to show that Bauer can kill McClane.

Wait... There was a 24 movie....?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I didn't.

...make a single credible argument yet that McChump can win this? Obviously

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
It was all fair.

Except for, you know, the massive McBiased gimping and downplaying you've engaged in throughout 😆

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You on the other hand smear and spin every thing said to you to play victim when in fact being the afflicter.

Last time I checked, I countered the evidence you posted. It's the McBiased camp who have to resort to ignoring evidence 😆

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Bauers non-submittable feats even if accepted as submittable fail to show that Bauer can kill McClane.

Maybe if you watched the feats instead of McIgnoring them, you can see how the only thing that fails is your rampant McBiased logic

Youre a constant McClane downplayer/spinner projecting his disgust at a fair debate onto the people he trolls with gimpery and downplay.
How massively and absurdly hypocritical.

Once again, I'm not the one ignoring blatant evidence 😆

Well you are.

4 Die hard movies
Plus EU which doesnt count here under MVF rules

vs

Pure EU which doesnt count here under MVF rules

Prove Bauer can't replicate McClane's video game feats. Bauer already shoots helicopters down with pistols and outmaneuvers F-35s with passenger jets , so giving him an attack helicopter and having him use it to shoot down others will be effortless for him