ROTS Yoda vs. Darth Bane

Started by Arhael12 pages

I don't think that means what you think it means. I've never seen anything that suggests the Force allows a Jedi to fall faster. It can empower a Jedi's limbs and perceptions and make them fight faster, but it doesn't, like, pull them forward or something.
It actually does. Jedi use the Force to slow their fall. However, if Yoda ever tried to use Force to accelerate fall, then effect will be similar to sv_gravity 10000 in counter strike. 😆

Thats slowing their fall, not speeding it up. 😛

Originally posted by Nephthys

So I highly doubt that Yoda can effectively use his TK in a fight

wtf nonsense is this?

So he ran at them? Thats it? I haven't read it in a while, but I remember attacking somewhere in there. Those bolded parts? Those are the Jedi moving.

So your saying Yoda is incapable of jumping that distance?

Sure, 1.5 seconds is a long time if the opponent does not also have a very high speed theirself. Yoda does.

You said block=parry. I said otherwise.

I have a feeling the Force is like a second nature to Yoda. The dude is the friggin 800 year old Grand Master of the Jedi Order. Seriously, nobody understands you don't become Grand Master for nothing (unless your Luke, who names himself)

Ok, a Jedi uses the Force to enhance the speed at which they move, yes? When jumping, Yoda obviously uses the Force to enhance his jumping ability. Therefore, he will move faster while jumping, in order to gain the extra distance. Moving faster means he will head up and down at a quicker rate than most things jump. Have I spelled it clearly enough?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats slowing their fall, not speeding it up. 😛

But still could be used to accelerate. It's just an author would have to be compete retard to make 900 year old limping Yoda to accelerate his fall 😄

Proof that they could use it to accelerate?

Ok, you agree that a Force Jump is when a Force user uses the Force to enhance the strength in their legs in order to perform a larger jump, yes?

Well, if your legs are stronger, that will propel you faster. Now, using the Force to make you cover a larger distance implies that you are travelling faster in order to actually cover that distance before gravity pulls you back down. Meaning that when Yoda jumps with the obvious use of the Force, such as when he jumps while fighting, he will be moving faster.

That is seriously just about all you can say. Its logic.

Originally posted by Pwned
Ok, you agree that a Force Jump is when a Force user uses the Force to enhance the strength in their legs in order to perform a larger jump, yes?

Well, if your legs are stronger, that will propel you faster. Now, using the Force to make you cover a larger distance implies that you are travelling faster in order to actually cover that distance before gravity pulls you back down. Meaning that when Yoda jumps with the obvious use of the Force, such as when he jumps while fighting, he will be moving faster.

That is seriously just about all you can say. Its logic.

When he jumps, yes. When he falls? Nope.

Of course if Yoda jumped really hard at Bane he would go flying about 50 feet passed him if Bane sidestepped. But Yoda never does that in the movies. All his jumps are slow and small.

Momentum is proportionate to speed: The faster you go, the more momentum you have.
His momentum keeps him moving at approximately that speed. Combined with gravity adjustments that begin taking effect the moment he starts going back down, he is actually going to fall at about the same speed he jumped, with the slowest part being at the apex of the arc. Which he still moves pretty fast even at the top of the arc.

Sorry, just thats not how falling works. You fall at the end of a jump because you've lost all your momentum. You don't get it back when you start to fall.

And everything falls at the same rate anyway. Don't you remember that thing with the Tower of Pisa?

Moving faster means he will head up and down at a quicker rate than most things jump. Have I spelled it clearly enough? [/B]

No, it means that he can run faster and jump higher. Accelerating fall is suicide, especially for Yoda.
SW is not matrix. Physics are always taken into consideration. If Jedi fail to slow their fall they get injured like normal people or die. Actual acceleration of fall is even worth, than normal fall.


Proof that they could use it to accelerate?

Slowing fall is essentially applying TK to own body. Luke for example in Dark Nest was rooting himself to flying starfighter, when it was making maneuvers.
Jedi could apply TK to themselves in any direction. Another thing is that applying it to accelerate fall would be stupid and result in broken legs.

Originally posted by truejedi
wtf nonsense is this?

Yoda sucks and loses horribly. Johun Othone for Grandmaster!

lol, reported for trolling. : )

Originally posted by truejedi
wtf nonsense is this?

Try to prove otherwise. During combat Yoda have to channel Force into his old body. To produce strong TK, he would need to stop jumping around and settle on the ground to remove need of revitalizing his body.

Law of Conservation of Momentum. You don't lose the momentum. Its High School physics. Also, depending on the arc, it may be a more or less straight jump.

The way I see it, Yoda uses the Force to stop before he hits the ground, but after he is out of the immediate strike zone. Hit and run, as it were.

Im a bit impatient right now, Shogun 2 is nearly done. Forgive me for not making myself as clear as I wish I was when I say things.

Originally posted by Pwned
Law of Conservation of Momentum. You don't lose the momentum. Its High School physics. Also, depending on the arc, it may be a more or less straight jump.

The way I see it, Yoda uses the Force to stop before he hits the ground.


Accelerating fall with subsequent sudden stop before landing would result in brain concussion and nausea. Simple high School physics. 🙂

Originally posted by Pwned
Law of Conservation of Momentum. You don't lose the momentum. Its High School physics. Also, depending on the arc, it may be a more or less straight jump.

The way I see it, Yoda uses the Force to stop before he hits the ground, but after he is out of the immediate strike zone. Hit and run, as it were.

Im a bit impatient right now, Shogun 2 is nearly done. Forgive me for not making myself as clear as I wish I was when I say things.

Close by no cookie. Its the Law of Conservation of Linear Momentum. Linear means in one direction. What it means is that if no external force acts on an objects, the momentum of the object remains constant. But when you jump air resistence and gravity cause you to lose your momentum and fall.

Which causes gravity to force you to accelerate again, yes.

What I am saying is, he moves at very fast speeds for a jump.

Anyways, I still haven't found that thread. That excerpt from RoT doesn't really prove HIS speed.

Yes, at a fixed speed. You don't go faster if you jumped fast.

Yes it does. They barely got out of the way in time. He almost blitzed them.

Its honestly to vague. I will go grab the copy from my local library tomorrow, and reread the book. However, as of right now, I say that Yoda uses superior speed and maneuverability to win.