Originally posted by HorrificusGreat post.
I think that the biggest obstacle here, is deciding upon the nature of "Willpower".
And, it isn't just about Doom and Thanos.There seem to be 2 camps:
1. Camp 1/Thanos- Seems to see "Willpower" as a combination of a Lack of Frailty, along with Achieving Goals while possessing great Durability, Godlike Intellect and Power.
Remaining In-Tact + Remaining Powerful + Triumphing Against Great Odds2. Camp 2/Doom- Sees Doom at his core. A frail, weak "Human". So much lower and weaker than the God that Thanos is.
But, a Human who has shown that even when everything has been stripped from his person, even when turned into a quivering pile of flayed flesh, through Willpower, alone, he was able to conquer a God.And, this is just one feat.
There is also the fact that his purely unenhanced human mind can withstand the power of the Purple Man through willpower alone.
Then, there is the fact that Doom travelled to Hell, again and again, to be crushed by the devil (Mephisto) and his minions, every year, to save his mother's soul. He made a decision to go to Hell, over and over.
So, in this case, the question might be-
Who shows greater Willpower?
The God that Triumphs, with a full arsenal of powers, attributes and information that may even make the Abstracts jealous?
or
The human being that has become a universal conqueror again and again, (and more, if you count his other incarnations), with nothing but Willpower, while he constantly overcomes his human fragility and lack of power.
In all honesty, for all we know, Thanos may have equal or greater willpower than Doom. But, until Thanos has been shown to be stripped of EVERYTHING but his forward momentum, we can't know.
Because every time he wins or survives, he still has that arsenal.
Its telling thats quanchi did not dare adress it.
Originally posted by biensalsaIf Quan said that the earth is flat noone would try to argue with him because if they did he'd just keep posting "based on?" until they quit.
Not really Quancake, but your reading comprehensions skills do not allow you to understand that I just couldn't control myself, is just funny. but I know is an AVERAGE showing for Squirrel Girl 😈
Originally posted by quanchi112
Doom is just a cc while the supreme power is well over the Lt. Just image the gap between Lt and a cc while this power dwarfed Lt's. Thanos survived due to willpower while Doom's willpower broke under the cc's level of power.
Because Doom was incomplete that's why he couldn't keep the beyonder's power not because he didn't have the will to.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Doesn't matter. Doom fell apart. he knew what he was doing. He can't handle all that awesome power but Thanos can.
of course it matters, its even mentioned that he lost the power because he was incomplete and if he got his memory back he would be able to retain the power. it was during the comic that the beyonder and molecule man merged to form a cosmic cube and Doom grabbed the cube. or was it when Doom summoned the beyonder and was thrown back into the Secret Wars. one of those.
Originally posted by AaklaThat's all fine and dandy I mean it was only the cc level power. That's small time. You'd think a broken Doom could master that level of power. He doesn't come close to Thanos' unmatched willpower.
of course it matters, its even mentioned that he lost the power because he was incomplete and if he got his memory back he would be able to retain the power. it was during the comic that the beyonder and molecule man merged to form a cosmic cube and Doom grabbed the cube. or was it when Doom summoned the beyonder and was thrown back into the Secret Wars. one of those.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's all fine and dandy I mean it was only the cc level power. That's small time. You'd think a broken Doom could master that level of power. He doesn't come close to Thanos' unmatched willpower.
Thanos is weak willed; what appears to be strong will on his part is just a show to cover up his own insecurities and self loathing...
Thanos is fiiled with doubt...
Hell, in the IG saga, Warlock revealed this plain as day to Thanos and Thanos could not dispute it; Thanos knows he is unworthy of ultimate power...
Doom owns Thanos hand over fist...
Originally posted by godkingWhen Kingpin did it, Purple Man wasn't hooked up to a machine that enhanced his powers so geometrically that they would be powerful enough to perpetually enslave the entire world's population including Kingpin and those like Cap, Thor, etc.
Nice feat something the kingpin was also able to do.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos is weak willed; what appears to be strong will on his part is just a show to cover up his own insecurities and self loathing...Thanos is fiiled with doubt...
Hell, in the IG saga, Warlock revealed this plain as day to Thanos and Thanos could not dispute it; Thanos [b]knows
he is unworthy of ultimate power...Doom owns Thanos hand over fist... [/B]
^The Final Truth .