Doom vs Thanos Battle of will

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When Kingpin did it, Purple Man wasn't hooked up to a machine that enhanced his powers so geometrically that they would be powerful enough to perpetually enslave the entire world's population including Kingpin and those like Cap, Thor, etc.

Did Purpleman have that upgrade when attacking Doom? It seemed to me that when the machine was in use Purpleman had no control over the people he affected.

The weird thing about that plot is that Namor had amazing will according to that arc!

Originally posted by Bentley
Did Purpleman have that upgrade when attacking Doom? It seemed to me that when the machine was in use Purpleman had no control over the people he affected.

The weird thing about that plot is that Namor had amazing will according to that arc!

Anyway, had the machine been turned off in any way then the entire world would have stopped being enslavedm. That obviously did not happen.

As for Namorn people eventually broke out of the control (including Cap) after sufficient pushing. I don't remember the exact circumstances but Namor attacking the crystal came way aftyer the other Avengers were already actively fighting. Of course, it didn't stop any of them from being utterly enslaved to begin with when Doom turned the machine on them.

Thanos.

Doom doesnt have anything close to mastering the likes of the HOTU on will power alone, plus the Magus has to use 5 infinity gems to make bend to his will

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It was clear to me that the machine was amping Purple Man's powers. Because the entire story started when Doom grabbed Purple Man off a beach and he was shouting then that nobody could resist him and nobody had such will. For him to say the same exact thing and be so flabbergasted again when goading Doom while connected to the machine doesn't make sense.

Anyway, had the machine been turned off in any way then the entire world would have stopped being enslavedm. That obviously did not happen.

As for Namorn people eventually broke out of the control (including Cap) after sufficient pushing. I don't remember the exact circumstances but Namor attacking the crystal came way aftyer the other Avengers were already actively fighting. Of course, it didn't stop any of them from being utterly enslaved to begin with when Doom turned the machine on them.

Yeah, you're right, it's been a while since I've read that arc. I recall Doom having to use a plotdevice to enslave Namor aside from using Purpleman's powers.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos.

Doom doesnt have anything close to mastering the likes of the HOTU on will power alone, plus the Magus has to use 5 infinity gems to make bend to his will

The HotU has an incredible power, but how that translates to a high amount of will it's easily put into question.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos.

Doom doesnt have anything close to mastering the likes of the HOTU on will power alone, plus the Magus has to use 5 infinity gems to make bend to his will

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're right. Doom was never bestowed power by TOAA as part of TOAA's specific plan.

Doom was never led into a painfully obvious trap by TOAA either , and then ending up becoming the butt of a joke by the Almighty .

Btw , here's Doom owning TOAA :

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Unmatched willpower indeed:

Doom stares down Thanos then wills him out of existence!

Doom gets an overwhelming majority.

Originally posted by Bentley
Yeah, you're right, it's been a while since I've read that arc. I recall Doom having to use a plotdevice to enslave Namor aside from using Purpleman's powers.

The HotU has an incredible power, but how that translates to a high amount of will it's easily put into question.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're right. Doom was never bestowed power by TOAA as part of TOAA's specific plan.

Originally posted by Nihilist
His plan was that he choose Thanos because he had what was needed to fullfill the task, part of which was controlig to HOTU which Thanos did by will power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
An ego to blind him and nihilistic tendencies.

^ TOAA bestowing THOTU upon Thanos is no spin. Thanos' ego blinding him and his nihilistic tendencies were exactly why he was chosen. And it is especially ironic that Thanos completely rejects the exact sort of sentimental back-patting you're forcing here.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ TOAA bestowing THOTU upon Thanos is no spin. Thanos' ego blinding him and his nihilistic tendencies were exactly why he was chosen. And it is especially ironic that Thanos completely rejects the exact sort of sentimental back-patting you're forcing here.

Bleh, the HotU was an object of great power made to be controlled, it gives you uncanny control over reality but that doesn't mean it needs an uncanny amount of will to seize control of it, after all it was meant to be controlled.

Which shouldn't come off as lowballing Thanos's feat, if's still an excellent feat, but some people are infering that getting infinite power supposes infinite will. It is not as if the HoTU was using its power to actively repel Thanos... Unless you have proof of that.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bleh, the HotU was an object of great power made to be controlled, it gives you uncanny control over reality but that doesn't mean it needs an uncanny amount of will to seize control of it, after all it was meant to be controlled.

Which shouldn't come off as lowballing Thanos's feat, if's still an excellent feat, but some people are infering that getting infinite power supposes infinite will. It is not as if the HoTU was using its power to actively repel Thanos... Unless you have proof of that.

Did you read the whole story ?

Originally posted by Badabing
Doom stares down Thanos then wills him out of existence!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ TOAA bestowing THOTU upon Thanos is no spin. Thanos' ego blinding him and his nihilistic tendencies were exactly why he was chosen. And it is especially ironic that Thanos completely rejects the exact sort of sentimental back-patting you're forcing here.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Doom gets an overwhelming majority.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So mastering omnipotent power doesn't take a lot of willpower ?

I'm saying that it doesn't need omnipotent will, nor infinite will, nor supreme will. Which has been thrown around a couple of times in the last pages.

I admitted in my previous post that it was a good feat.

Originally posted by Bentley
[B]Bleh, the HotU was an object of great power made to be controlled, it gives you uncanny control over reality but that doesn't mean it needs an uncanny amount of will to seize control of it, after all it was meant to be controlled.

Which shouldn't come off as lowballing Thanos's feat, if's still an excellent feat, but some people are infering that getting infinite power supposes infinite will. It is not as if the HoTU was using its power to actively repel Thanos... Unless you have proof of that.

None of the statements I made is false though.