Originally posted by Classic NES
Still not relevant, Strength of materials that is.
Math Induced Stupidity is not relevant as well as it's not found in any manga or databooks.
As were not even sure if 36 Normal Humans combined could or could not blow up the moon, we don't know it's mechanics, it will end up in opinions.
As for Kaiohken Multiplier it was stated in the manga that it multiplies all the attributes.
As for Super Saiyan, it's x50.
So where's your Math Induced Stupidity?
Originally posted by nij-ayias
Math Induced Stupidity is not relevant as well as it's not found in any manga or databooks.
All my numbers come from canon.
Farmer PL 5
Roshi PL 139 confirmed moonbuster
How many people would it take to exceed Roshi PL?
36 X 5= 180
PL higher than Roshi is achieved with only 36 people. Which is also enough to moonbust.
Originally posted by Classic NES
All my numbers come from canon.Farmer PL 5
Roshi PL 139 confirmed moonbuster
How many people would it take to exceed Roshi PL?
36 X 5= 180
PL higher than Roshi is achieved with only 36 people. Which is also enough to moonbust.
But not the mechanics. It's irrelevant, because you're making stupidity of the given number.
Originally posted by Classic NES
But, the energy is still there.
But Toriyama or Goku himself doesn't know what will happen, it's all plot. Remember, Goku stated that the fusion with Mr. Satan will either make him weaker or stronger.
With NORMAL HUMANS WITH NO KI CONTROL/TECHNIQUE, we don't know the result, probably it can, probably it won't. Plus the assistance, how strong is he?
Your mechanics is pure opinion while mine was not because of the Kaiohken and Super Saiyan.
Put scans of there feats, not stats from the creator. Put actual feats from the character itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLyyik7OKhE
They are very frail compared to Thanos and be able to take a hit physically or a blast that could take out a city block.
If your only arguement is that they will use ki blast to win, then the match is in Thanos favor since he can take ki blast with his natural durability, he has shields, can teleport, and can survive in space. He has way more advantages than Goku.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512564
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512569
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512588
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512590
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512613
Thanos encases him in a glass wall
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512620
Thanos can survive the tempatures of the sun basically...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512631
If your frame of mind is Thanos losing in a energy battle you're wrong, he'll win, it's perfect for him because he phsically doesn't have to compete with Goku because Goku isn't strong enough to harm him.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512641
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512662
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512666
How long do you think he'll last before his powers actaully give out, because Thanos can go a long time.
Originally posted by dvampire
Put scans of there feats, not stats from the creator. Put actual feats from the character itself.
Power levels are from the Author itself, you can't deny that whether you like it or not. Dragon Ball is very limited unlike Marvel. Saying no stats from the creator is like saying Thanos can't win if I'll use stat, LOL.
Using that logic, we can't use Thanos from multiple writers but Thanos from Jim Starlin and Mike Friedrich only.
Originally posted by dvampire
They are very frail compared to Thanos and be able to take a hit physically or a blast that could take out a city block.
City Block? Where? I don't see any city get one shots?
Originally posted by dvampire
If your only arguement is that they will use ki blast to win, then the match is in Thanos favor since he can take ki blast with his natural durability, he has shields, can teleport, and can survive in space. He has way more advantages than Goku.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512564
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512569
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512588
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512590
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512613
We don't even know if Odin was using his full power or using planet buster scaled up to 100,000 times.
Originally posted by dvampire
Thanos encases him in a glass wallhttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512620
Dodge or IT.
Originally posted by dvampire
Thanos can survive the tempatures of the sun basically...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512631It doesn't say anything about temperature of the sun.
[QUOTE=13955616]Originally posted by dvampire
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If your frame of mind is Thanos losing in a energy battle you're wrong, he'll win, it's perfect for him because he phsically doesn't have to compete with Goku because Goku isn't strong enough to harm him.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512641
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512662
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512666
That was Thanos losing, and Odin winning. And we don't know if Odin was holding back or going all out. All of it are not quantifiable.
Originally posted by dvampire
How long do you think he'll last before his powers actaully give out, because Thanos can go a long time.
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Kid Buu, No. 16, No, 17 and No. 18 can go forever, their ki never descends and have perpetual endurance.
Thanks for the effort. 🙂
Can you differenciate Goku's ki blasts from Odin or even the power cosmic, because Thanos has taken both and was still fine.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512564
Goku can't when in a energy battle, which he himself needs to save for fighting in close combat, he's not a living battery of energy that can't run out. He actaully tires in fights using ki energy. Remeber his fight with Kid Buu, he lost his transformation after expending to much energy. SSj2 Goku did the exact same thing in his fight with Cell (who also tired from wasting to energy on ki blasts), they can't spend the entire fight throwing ki blasts in order to beat Thanos, it's impossible, and won't be enough to put him down. Thanos has shields, can teleport, can negate a ki blast with energy of his on; Thanos is the superior combatant that needs to be taken down by more than just ki blasts.
Originally posted by dvampire
Can you differenciate Goku's ki blasts from Odin or even the power cosmic, because Thanos has taken both and was still fine.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512564
Goku can't when in a energy battle, which he himself needs to save for fighting in close combat, he's not a living battery of energy that can't run out. He actaully tires in fights using ki energy. Remeber his fight with Kid Buu, he lost his transformation after expending to much energy. SSj2 Goku did the exact same thing in his fight with Cell (who also tired from wasting to energy on ki blasts), they can't spend the entire fight throwing ki blasts in order to beat Thanos, it's impossible, and won't be enough to put him down. Thanos has shields, can teleport, can negate a ki blast with energy of his on; Thanos is the superior combatant that needs to be taken down by more than just ki blasts.
It was a simple mistake about confusing ssj2 with 1 against Cell, but it still doesn't change the fact that he can not win in a energy battle, because Thanos himself will not allow it to be just purely a long range battle without gaining an advantage, which he has many which was already explained.