Originally posted by Trackz
I'm thinking of Ironfist's feats of destroying the train, ragnorok, the hellicarrier, and the building floor...As for speed I was thinking of Ironfist catching bullets, I know Spiderman has dodged bullets on occasion, but catching seems more impressive.
And we've seen how Spidey did against the inferior Steel Serpent, plus Danny's peer Black Tarantula.
Yeah, I'm using abc logic, but it's still a valid trend..
Originally posted by vansonbee
Just to be clear, Iron Fist caught it with his hands? The same hands that are amp with chi.Granted, maybe Spider Man can also replicate the same feat if he had durable hands to grab bullets.
But Danny also did this with unamped hands:
Doing this without even taking a scratch is pretty impressive. (And he could as easily replicate this with bullets, as flechettes have a very high muzzle velocity.)
A>B>C logic doesnt work concidering characters tend to job to one another on occasions.
Originally posted by TrackzSpider-man did catch a bullet once. And unlike Danny he can't amp his hand's durability. He also dodged machinegunfire from like 200+ people while carrying someone and while inside of a warehouse. Leaped through a moving rotor of helicopter. 3 times. Also while carrying someone. Iron Fist is not faster than him.
These days Ironfist doesn't lose energy when he uses his Ironfist, so there's no reason all of his punches can't be amped.Everyone and their mother can avoid bullets, yes. However, only a few have ever caught a bullets, granted that feat is a mix of speed and durability.
But, if you have some combat feats, I'd be happy to see them.
Originally posted by Trackz
These days Ironfist doesn't lose energy when he uses his Ironfist, so there's no reason all of his punches can't be amped.Everyone and their mother can avoid bullets, yes. However, only a few have ever caught a bullets, granted that feat is a mix of speed and durability.
But, if you have some combat feats, I'd be happy to see them.
lets put it this way it doesnt matter even with the iron fist who has the stronger punch because of the simple fact that both can take out the other with a good placed punch, as much as iron fist can take spidy out with his iron fist punch same way spider man will make a hole in his skull if he really wants it with his punch like this one
spider-man caught bullets before and he was dancing between machine gun fire and cracking jokes for his living, other than that when going more serious he was able to hit multiple super heroes before they could even react and do things danny could only dream of
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/4supers.jpg/
and come on man spider-man is far stronger physicallt than danny he can just tear him apart i mean seriously amping punches or not he is not comming any close to spider-man strength levels
Originally posted by red sabre
lets put it this way it doesnt matter even with the iron fist who has the stronger punch because of the simple fact that both can take out the other with a good placed punch, as much as iron fist can take spidy out with his iron fist punch same way spider man will make a hole in his skull if he really wants it with his punch like this onespider-man caught bullets before and he was dancing between machine gun fire and cracking jokes for his living, other than that when going more serious he was able to hit multiple super heroes before they could even react and do things danny could only dream of
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/4supers.jpg/
and come on man spider-man is far stronger physicallt than danny he can just tear him apart i mean seriously amping punches or not he is not comming any close to spider-man strength levels
I mean, Spdierman is incredibly strong, no one is taking that away. But these don't come close to Iron Fist taking out a hellicarrier or a train...do you disagree?
Anyway, I'm not as knowledgable on Ironfist's durability...I've seen him heal from getting shot before, but maybe you're right on Spiderman being able to one-shot Ironfist. However, who's more likely to get that one-punch off? Ironfist is leagues above Parker in terms of skill.
Originally posted by Trackz
I mean, Spdierman is incredibly strong, no one is taking that away. But these don't come close to Iron Fist taking out a hellicarrier or a train...do you disagree?Anyway, I'm not as knowledgable on Ironfist's durability...I've seen him heal from getting shot before, but maybe you're right on Spiderman being able to one-shot Ironfist. However, who's more likely to get that one-punch off? Ironfist is leagues above Parker in terms of skill.
iron fist taking out a hellicarrier with his iron fist or a train is not strength feats its his striking feats, if you believe he can match his physical strength with spidy better bring on some feats, as for his striking power as i stated doesnt really matter because both guys can take out the other with a good placed punch
while iron fist is the more skilled spider-man is indeed the faster and more agile one, shang chi himself when recieving spider-man powers admited it made him faster more agile and stronger, danny while being a fast martial artist doesnt come any where near spider-man in tearms of speed, i posted the scans above showing spidy basically speeblitzing heroes left and right, speedblitz thor, being so fast human ene cant follow him, there is a feat of him supressing speed demon in reaction time, there is no argument that spider-man is way above danny in speed reflex and agility
