In his fight with Kar Vastor, it's noted that Kar Vastor is blindingly fast, but Mace is invisibly fast, delivering 6 blows to Vastor's chest before he can blink. In the same novel, Mace is able to dish out 24 lightsaber strikes per second. In RotS, he's able to move as fast as Sidious. All of these traits can only be achieved however, when he's immersed in Vaapad.
His only real strength feats are punching through droids. As for saber feats, well, he stalemated Palpatine in a duel, has deflected fire from tens shooters at once, was a master of all 7 lightsaber forms, and was stated to be Dooku's equal on neutral ground, which speaks for lightsaber proficiency. He also rather handily dealt with Sora Bulq. And you know, what you said earlier about him being second only to Yoda, and stated a level 9 duelist and all.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
In his fight with Kar Vastor, it's noted that Kar Vastor is blindingly fast, but Mace is invisibly fast, delivering 6 blows to Vastor's chest before he can blink. In the same novel, Mace is able to dish out 24 lightsaber strikes per second. In RotS, he's able to move as fast as Sidious. All of these traits can only be achieved however, when he's immersed in Vaapad.His only real strength feats are punching through droids. As for saber feats, well, he stalemated Palpatine in a duel, has deflected fire from tens shooters at once, was a master of all 7 lightsaber forms, and was stated to be Dooku's equal on neutral ground, which speaks for lightsaber proficiency. He also rather handily dealt with Sora Bulq. And you know, what you said earlier about him being second only to Yoda, and stated a level 9 duelist and all.
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He was the 2nd best Jedi as of TPM/AOTC/ROTS(as of ROTS not including Skywalker, which is debatble), beat Ventress, and stalemated with Dooku and dished out 6punches before Vastor knew what had happend.
So far those are his best feats.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
It doesn't contradict the movies. These Jedi are defending against opponents that shoot blaster bolts--Which travel at the speed of light. What we see on screen is slowed down to our level of comprehension.
That wouldn't really work, since people talk, objects fall, and noises are heard during said combat situations without any hint of dilation.
Blaster bolts do not travel at the speed of light, don't be stupid.
How is it that Jedi can deal with lightspeed attacks yet Jango Fett can take on multiple Jedi at once in h2h and Cad Bane can dance around Kenobi then snatch a lightsaber from his hand, then go on to duel him with it.
Just look at Vos and Kenobi's amazing lightspeed reactions in that fight. Wow.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Blaster bolts do not travel at the speed of light, don't be stupid.How is it that Jedi can deal with lightspeed attacks yet Jango Fett can take on multiple Jedi at once in h2h and Cad Bane can dance around Kenobi [b]then snatch a lightsaber from his hand,
then go on to duel him with it.Just look at Vos and Kenobi's amazing lightspeed reactions in that fight. Wow. [/B]
Implants, genetic alterations, Cad Bane and Fett being somewhat Force Sensitive. Its Star Wars, if verses like Halo can make superhumans, so can they.
Except he doesn't ever match their speed, he takes Vos down with a thrown bolas and kicks Kenobi's lightsaber out of his hand while being kicked backwards.
Plus I don't believe either has implants or is genetically altered. Jedi get hit by things slower than lightspeed all the time and go up against opponents of at best peak human speeds.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Except he doesn't ever match their speed, he takes Vos down with a thrown bolas and kicks Kenobi's lightsaber out of his hand while being kicked backwards.
Plus I don't believe either has implants or is genetically altered. Jedi get hit by things slower than lightspeed all the time and go up against opponents of at best peak human speeds.
One flaw in your theory. Grievous, a cyborg built for Jedi killing needed all sorts of mods and shit to keep up with the Jedi. So unless Bane and Fett and Mandos have something similar it makes no sense for them to not have mods.
Also in AOTCs massively hypersonic blaster rounds are shown crossing multi kilometer blaster bolts in a single frame. So even if we take the movies as absolutely their speed, Jedi are still massively hypersonic in terms of reaction and movement speed.
After seeing the comics, images, and novel quotes in the other thread of Vader Vs Malgus I have come to believe Vader would win.
His TK is absolutely unrivaled, he is tearing apart giant ships, tossing around Y Wings. It states on panel that Vader moves so fast he is moving beyond the speed of thought and the eye, he is nothing more then a blur that appears momentarily in one spot and then in another a moment later.
I use to think Vader lacked speed, but I have now come to respect vader as one of the fastest sith. Additionally I use to think force lightning would kill Vader, but as seen in TFU and in the graphic novels force lightning does very little to him (his armor actually seems to be very resistant/immune to it). Even when his armor is destroyed and he is tanking it with his bare skin, he is fine.
If anything from what I have seen Vader has one of the highest force lightning resistances I have ever seen, both of jedi and of sith alike.
I could see Vader just destroying Windu with sheer speed, TK assaults and strength.
Furthermore Vader never tires, he just becomes increasingly stronger as the fight goes on.