Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Apocalypse also claimed that "power of the Celestials… supercedes all but my own."
I wouldn't really put too much weight into his hyperbole . However I can't shrug of the fact that War did indeed outperform Green Scar when it came to stopping Juggs .
Originally posted by Stoic
Don't feed into the bullshyt Carver. If Cain was not pushing against the Green Scar, then he would not have taken off like a jet, when the Green Scar side stepped him.
Yeah, I said this but one poster said "when Hulk loved tapped Juggernaut, that activated his forward momentum power".
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Originally posted by The Sorrow
Well we know Apoc was correct about the Hulk's power because he overpowered Juggernauts enchantment, threw him to another country and then one-shotted him. That's crazy power. Honestly I don't see anything but a high end Green Scar/WWH doing that.
He didn't one shot him. Juggernaut was still up and fighting by the end. It ended with War having his sword at Jugs throat.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Well we know Apoc was correct about the Hulk's power because he overpowered Juggernauts enchantment, threw him to another country and then one-shotted him. That's crazy power. Honestly I don't see anything but a high end Green Scar/WWH doing that.
I wouldn't really put it at the same level as Celestials considering how in that same panel Apoc mentions that the Celestials' power doesn't supersede his own .
Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, I said this but one poster said "when Hulk loved tapped Juggernaut, that activated his forward momentum power".😕
That's ridiculous, Cain's enchantment is an active ability, not one that is cut on and off after, during, or while Cain is in conflict. He's not Ultraboy.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I did see the difference . In one(w/ Green Scar) , Juggs had his forward momentum used against him to get bfr'd . In the other(w/ War) , Juggs was outright stopped . His expression of shock says it all .
WTF? The difference is, War Hulk got pushed through an entire desert before gaining the strength to halt Juggernaut whereas WWH wasn't even nearly budged by Juggernaut. Put War Hulk in WWH shoes and he would have been pushed through the Xmansion and probably on his way to Cali.
Originally posted by Reacting2
BS
You seem like the one BSing here. War was pushed like a plow on panel, while WW Hulk nearly held his footing. Cain was simply unable to push WW Hulk, and it was stated later during HOTM that he was holding back the entire time during the WW Hulk arc, as seen at the end of the arc. Prove me wrong with on panel citations and evidence.
Originally posted by carver9
WTF? The difference is, War Hulk got pushed through an entire desert before gaining the strength to halt Juggernaut whereas WWH wasn't even nearly budged by Juggernaut. Put War Hulk in WWH shoes and he would have been pushed through the Xmansion and probably on his way to Cali.
Nope . Nowhere was it mentioned that War was pushed through an entire desert . He was pushed back initially , but once he started "glowing green" , he stopped him . Green Scar admitted on panel that "Nothing stops the Juggernaut ? Fine Keep going" . The fact that he was forced to use Juggy's own forward momentum against him in order to bfr his opponent , compared to War outright stopping Cain , tells me who is superior at least when we use Juggs as a measuring stick . And it isn't Green Scar .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Nope . Nowhere was it mentioned that War was pushed through an entire desert . He was pushed back initially , but once he started "glowing green" , he stopped him . Green Scar admitted on panel that "Nothing stops the Juggernaut ? Fine Keep going" . The fact that he was forced to use Juggy's own forward momentum against him in order to bfr his opponent , compared to War outright stopping Cain , tells me who is superior at least when we use Juggs as a measuring stick . And it isn't Green Scar .
It does not matter that he wasn't pushed for miles, all that matters is that he was pushed further than WW Hulk was pushed. This alone is solid evidence showing that WW Hulk while holding back was superior in strength to War Hulk. WW Hulk was also never there to battle it out with Cain, he was there for Xavier. WW Hulk was the Green Scar, who are you trying to fool?
Originally posted by Stoic
It does not matter that he wasn't pushed for miles, all that matters is that he was pushed further than WW Hulk was pushed. This alone is solid evidence showing that WW Hulk while holding back was superior in strength to War Hulk.
How exactly do you know that he was pushed back further ? Was it mentioned in the comic ? As far Green Scar being there for Xavier , that is irrelevant . On-panel , Green Scar himself admitted that nothing can stop the Juggernaut , which is why he resorted to using Juggs own forward momentum against him to bfr the latter .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How exactly do you know that he was pushed back further ? Was it mentioned in the comic ?
Scans buddy, scans.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg
It's also stated that with all of War unimaginable might, he can NOT stop Jugs. He gained the strength but it took time. WWH wasn't even pushed back but like an inch or so.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How exactly do you know that he was pushed back further ? Was it mentioned in the comic ? As far Green Scar being there for Xavier , that is irrelevant . On-panel , Green Scar himself admitted that nothing can stop the Juggernaut , which is why he resorted to using Juggs own forward momentum against him to bfr the latter .
You need to stop trying to play people for dummies dude. It was seen on panel that WW Hulk was not pushed, while War was, and Cain was pushing against WW Hulk. Go back and reread the XMen/Hulk WW Hulk filler. This is the only reason that I can see you stating what you have, if not you're trying to play people like they're dummies.
Looks like Juggernaut was straining to even budge WWH. Look at the gaps in his speech.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0027.jpg
