Originally posted by carver9
Scans buddy, scans.http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
It's also stated that with all of War unimaginable might, he can NOT stop Jugs.
"And despite War's unimaginable might and motivation .... the Juggernaut continues to push his foe back .... until..."
Show me where exactly is it mentioned that "he can NOT stop Juggernaut" ?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Where does it say in that scan that War was pushed across an entire desert or that he was pushed further than Green Scar ?Look at your own scan :
"And despite War's unimaginable might and motivation .... the Juggernaut continues to push his foe back .... [b]until
..."
Show me where exactly is it mentioned that "he can NOT stop Juggernaut" ? [/B]
He was still pushed further than WW Hulk/The Green Scar was pushed. The Green Scar was able to bring his strength level up by consciously willing him to become stronger. The Celestial tech did to the Hulk what WW Hulk could do without external stimulation. Read Planet Hulk to understand why this was.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Where does it say in that scan that War was pushed across an entire desert or that he was pushed further than Green Scar ?Look at your own scan :
"And despite War's unimaginable might and motivation .... the Juggernaut continues to push his foe back .... [b]until
..."
Show me where exactly is it mentioned that "he can NOT stop Juggernaut" ? [/B]
Who was pushed back further? Who did Juggernaut struggle the most to even budge? The scans are there...LOOK AT THEM.
Originally posted by Stoic
You need to stop trying to play people for dummies dude. It was seen on panel that WW Hulk was not pushed, while War was, and Cain was pushing against WW Hulk. Go back and reread the XMen/Hulk WW Hulk filler. This is the only reason that I can see you stating what you have, if not you're trying to play people like they're dummies.
Now , here is the scan which Carver himself posted :
The on-panel illustration very clearly shows that Green Scar was pushed back .
Both War and Green Scar were pushed back , the only difference is that while War was able to outright stop Juggernaut , Green Scar had to resort to using Juggernaut's own forward momentum against him which resulted in a bfr for Cain .
Originally posted by carver9same gaps as Hulk? ofcourse he was straining, he has to do that when using only his strenght, while when in motion he is unstoppable and dont have to use his strength at all
Looks like Juggernaut was straining to even budge WWH. Look at the gaps in his speech.http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0027.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol also noticed one thing -The scan that carver posted? Take a look at the file name.
'hulk457-[b]stopsjuggernaut
.jpg' [/B]
I know that you're kidding, but all kidding aside, WW Hulk was capable of physically slowing Cain down much faster than War was, and he was holding back according to what was written at the end of HOTM. Cain was trying to push WW Hulk, and this can be seen twice. Once when his foot was being pushed backwards, and the second time when he step stepped and Cain took off like a jet. If Cain was not pushing, he would not have ran into the lake bed when he was side stepped. No amount of bullshytting can overturn these facts.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't one shot him. Juggernaut was still up and fighting by the end. It ended with War having his sword at Jugs throat.
Juggernaut isn't out cold but clearly in rough shape, and in the book he isn't seen standing again until several pages later. Once War started amping the fight became one sided very quickly but the WWH fight was even.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
First of all I am not playing anybody for dummies . There's no need to get worked up unnecessarily over 2 different incarnations of the same comic book character .Now , here is the scan which Carver himself posted :
The on-panel illustration very clearly shows that Green Scar was pushed back .
Both War and Green Scar were pushed back , the only difference is that while War was able to outright stop Juggernaut , Green Scar had to resort to using Juggernaut's own forward momentum against him which resulted in a bfr for Cain .
So was War. War was plowed for at least 100 yards, WW Hulk was pushed several inches. Come on man, this is a no brainer. I'm not getting worked up, I'm stating on panel evidence where others are hyping the tech that only used that which the Hulk already had, which was his strength amping.
Originally posted by carver9
Who was pushed back further? Who did Juggernaut struggle the most to even budge? The scans are there...LOOK AT THEM.
Both were pushed back , that much is certain . And against War , Juggernaut's facial expression very clearly displays tremendous physical struggle . With Green Scar....only two small gaps in his speech .
Originally posted by StoicI know you jest, because war stopped a Unstoppalbe Juggernaut, while WWH did not stop a just strenght juggernaut, you see the difference? war is way more powerful(with his tech)
I know that you're kidding, but all kidding aside, WW Hulk was capable of physically slowing Cain down much faster than War was,
Originally posted by Stoic
So was War. War was plowed for at least 100 yards, WW Hulk was pushed several inches.
Originally posted by Reacting2
ofcourse because he was using his unstoppability, while with WWH he was using just strength, juggernaut would have pushed him all the way to the pacific if he wanted to use his unstoppability
Bullsht. Cain was pushing WW Hulk, he was just unable to do what he did to War to WW Hulk. Again, if he wasn't pushing against WW Hulk he would not have ran into the lake bed when side stepped.
To be fair, Godkiller/Reacting, look at the War Hulk scan, all kidding aside.
There's like a massive trench by the sides of the pyramids, where Juggy has pushed War Hulk a fair distance.
On the WWH scan? Its more like a crater. Sure, it wasn't outright stated, but Juggy def pushed him a much further distance.
Then of course, there are the speed lines on War Hulk's face in the 3rd panel, and the speed lines on Juggy's feet in the 2nd panel, giving me reason enough to believe that not only was War Hulk pushed, he was pushed at speed.
