Originally posted by TheGodKiller
When did I deny that War was pushed back ? And where exactly did you get the "War was plowed for at least 100 yards, WW Hulk was pushed several inches" thingy ? To my knowledge the exact distance to which both were pushed back , wasn't quantified in either comic .
Then you have a problem. The pictures show that War was plowed or pushed further than WW Hulk by Cain.
Originally posted by Reacting2
I know you jest, because war stopped a Unstoppalbe Juggernaut, while WWH did not stop a just strenght juggernaut, you see the difference? war is way more powerful(with his tech)
You had better go back and reread the War stoppage. He never stopped Cain with strength alone, he used his tentacle to to trip Cain.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To be fair, Godkiller/Reacting, look at the War Hulk scan, all kidding aside.There's like a massive trench by the sides of the pyramids, where Juggy has pushed War Hulk a fair distance.
On the WWH scan? Its more like a crater. Sure, it wasn't outright stated, but Juggy def pushed him a much further distance.
Then of course, there are the speed lines on War Hulk's face in the 3rd panel, and the speed lines on Juggy's feet in the 2nd panel, giving me reason enough to believe that not only was War Hulk pushed, he was pushed at speed.
Ah , I see it now . So , it appears that War was indeed pushed back further than Green Scar , but you also have to look at the duration of each fight . The Green Scar fight lasted for a just a couple of panels before Juggs got bfr'd , while the War fight lasted for almost half the issue 457 .
Green Scar was clearly being pushed back , and if he hadn't bfr'd his opponent , he too would have been pushed a fairly large distance away .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Ah , I see it now . So , it appears that War was indeed pushed back further than Green Scar , but you also have to look at the duration of each fight . The Green Scar fight lasted for a just a couple of panels before Juggs got bfr'd , while the War fight lasted for almost half the issue 457 .
Green Scar was clearly being pushed back , and if he hadn't bfr'd his opponent , he too would have been pushed a fairly large distance away .
But the Green Scar was not there to fight Cain, he didn't even expect Cain to be running with the Xmen, and was only there to take Xavier. He wasn't there to beat up Cain. This is stated in the book itself.
If the conflict continued innocents would have been killed, which was not in character with the Green Scar. He stated this all along. This is why he side stepped and BFRed Cain.
Originally posted by Stoic
But the Green Scar was not there to fight Cain, he didn't even expect Cain to be running with the Xmen, and was only there to take Xavier. He wasn't there to beat up Cain. This is stated in the book itself.
Yet he himself admitted that nothing can stop the Juggernaut , a fact which he used for bfr'ing his opponent .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yet he himself admitted that nothing can stop the Juggernaut , a fact which he used for bfr'ing his opponent .
Now, when I first read the WWH/X-men comic, I saw the line uttered by Hulk ('Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going.'😉 as a sarcastic one. Kinda like how someone would mock Hulk as being 'the strongest one there is' whilst beating down on him.
Originally posted by Stoic
And yet he did better than War did in slowing down his forward momentum faster than War was able to. He was also holding back.
He didn't slow down Juggernaut . The fight barely lasted for a few panels before Hulk decided to bfr him . War on the other hand fought Juggernaut for almost half his issue , and ended up stopping him , something Green Scar couldn't do .
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now, when I first read the WWH/X-men comic, I saw the line uttered by Hulk ('Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going.'😉 as a sarcastic one. Kinda like how someone would mock Hulk as being 'the strongest one there is' whilst beating down on him.
Nothing but the truth from you as always my brother.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now, when I first read the WWH/X-men comic, I saw the line uttered by Hulk ('Nothing stops the Juggernaut? Fine. Keep going.'😉 as a sarcastic one. Kinda like how someone would mock Hulk as being 'the strongest one there is' whilst beating down on him.
And what better way to mock Juggernaut than by using his own forward momentum against him ?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
And what better way to mock Juggernaut than by using his own forward momentum against him ?
A forward momentum hat was being matched by the Hulk ever increasing ability to grow in strength. Cain was pushing up against a force that would have pushed War through the Xavier Estate as it did for several yards of desert. The idea here is that while they were both pushed, War was pushed much further.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
And what better way to mock Juggernaut than by using his own forward momentum against him ?
Exactly. It was just the fastest way to get rid of Juggy.
Either way you slice it, Juggy IS a formidable and strong opponent. Hulk knows this. WW Hulk knows this, and has a tactical enough mind to prioritise. His aim was to get Xavier, if it was any other day, he would have gladly fought Juggs.
Him BFRing Juggernaut isn't an admission of weakness, IMO. Its a valid tactic, its fast, its effective. In fact, we on the forums know this, hence the no BFR stipulations.