Originally posted by Damborgson
No I thought people wouldn't be dumb enough as to think I'd put a basically featless superman against the most powerful version of Hulk ever? Thats what I mean by assumed.
It's a stomp either way.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
And you thought that Superman who lifted a book with infinite mass, has held black holes, and traveled faster than light wouldn't stomp the version of Hulk that was knocked out to Banner state by a city-busting satellite beam?It's a stomp either way.
Thats up to you to debate. Some people disagree with you.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Since the people at DC decided to trash all the history up until this point and start anew, hence the reboot.
Maybe you should read this, it might clear up some of the confusion you seem to be having:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-bob-harras-eddie-berganza-history-in-tact-110615.html
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
It's a 10/10 stomp one way or the other. It's a spite thread either way.And logically you'd go with what's canon.
It would be a good idea if you looked at the context of the event that put the Hulk down, because when you do, you will realize that the Hulk wanted to be stopped. He held back the entire time, and at any time could have killed every single person on Earth in an instant.
How does Superman hurt him? I can see this as a long blown out stalemate, with Superman hitting the Hulk, while the Hulk continued to get angrier, stronger, and more damage resistant. Any other way would be a blatant low ball in either direction.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
It's a 10/10 stomp one way or the other. It's a spite thread either way.And logically you'd go with what's canon.
Give it a rest. 😬 You realized you were unnecessarily bitching and now you're just hanging in to get the last word and try to justify your first post despite knowing it's really not something justifiable. Your not the first to do this so don't think your being anything special with this third grade attitude your letting loose. You're just being an annoying prick. 🙂 And with that, I'll let you get your last word to avoid getting warned for bashing or anything similar.
Originally posted by Stoic
It would be a good idea if you looked at the context of the event that put the Hulk down, because when you do, you will realize that the Hulk wanted to be stopped. He held back the entire time, and at any time could have killed every single person on Earth in an instant.[1]How does Superman hurt him? I can see this as a long blown out stalemate, with Superman hitting the Hulk, while the Hulk continued to get angrier, stronger, and more damage resistant. Any other way would be a blatant low ball in either direction.[2]
[2] By using the same muscles he used to life INFINITE WEIGHT.
Originally posted by Stoic
It would be a good idea if you looked at the context of the event that put the Hulk down, because when you do, you will realize that the Hulk wanted to be stopped. He held back the entire time, and at any time could have killed every single person on Earth in an instant.How does Superman hurt him? I can see this as a long blown out stalemate, with Superman hitting the Hulk, while the Hulk continued to get angrier, stronger, and more damage resistant. Any other way would be a blatant low ball in either direction.
The myth that the Hulk can just tank any amount of physical damage really needs to die. Hulk and Juggernaut are the two biggest culprits of the no-limits fallacy. How many times do we need to see the Hulk get physically beaten to start realizing it can be done? Superman has hurt a guy who tanked a universe-buster. He lifted infinite weight on more than one occasion. He's shattered space and time, and reality. He's fast-balled black holes.
The Hulk does not have unlimited energy. Sentry used physical force to change him back into banner. In regards to the satelittes, regardless of whether Hulk wanted to be stopped or not, how is he going to will his durability to lower? Zeus physically beat him to a pulp. His healing factor and durability have limits. In fact, there are so many more examples of Superman tanking FAR MORE damage than the Hulk, it's almost preposterous to compare the two.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The myth that the Hulk can just tank any amount of physical damage really needs to die. Hulk and Juggernaut are the two biggest culprits of the no-limits fallacy. How many times do we need to see the Hulk get physically beaten to start realizing it can be done? Superman has hurt a guy who tanked a universe-buster. He lifted infinite weight on more than one occasion. He's shattered space and time, and reality. He's fast-balled black holes.The Hulk does not have unlimited energy. Sentry used physical force to change him back into banner. In regards to the satelittes, regardless of whether Hulk wanted to be stopped or not, how is he going to will his durability to lower? Zeus physically beat him to a pulp. His healing factor and durability have limits. In fact, there are so many more examples of Superman tanking FAR MORE damage than the Hulk, it's almost preposterous to compare the two.
The question here should be how many times do you need to be told that the Hulk does not remain on a static level of strength like a character like Hercules is?
You can attempt to make up whatever you like but on panel Wolverine told/said to the Hulk how he noticesd how difficult it was to cut him, and to further cement this fact, he was later seen to ignore what used to be known as high yield hits from high class 100 characters.
Superman in more consistent showings, has needed help to tug a planet, was KO'd when he hit a shadow moon, and other showings that weighed and measured his peak strength abilities. On the other side the Hulk hit an equal power so hard that the mass of the event turned at the very least a planet to dust.
Your unwillingness to accept the idea that WB Hulk was far out of Superman's league in terms of strength and durability is your cross to bare. However on panel evidence suggests that Superman is nowhere near as strong as WB Hulk. To add to this it never once said that the Hulk had reached his limit. I can accept the idea that a CIS off Supes cna rain down blow after unanswered blow, but you have to prove that those blows would be effective to a guy that at a far weker level was able to tank a hit that tore a large portion of the moon off, and he was holding back to boot.
Sentry fought a Hulk that was holding back, did you read WW Hulk? If so perhaps you might want to think before typing such things.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
It's a 10/10 stomp one way or the other. It's a spite thread either way.And logically you'd go with what's canon.
if it's pre-reboot, which the maker said it was, then it's not spite, and it's not being closed.
Originally posted by Stoic
The question here should be how many times do you need to be told that the Hulk does not remain on a static level of strength like a character like Hercules is?You can attempt to make up whatever you like but on panel Wolverine told/said to the Hulk how he noticesd how difficult it was to cut him, and to further cement this fact, he was later seen to ignore what used to be known as high yield hits from high class 100 characters.
Superman in more consistent showings, has needed help to tug a planet, was KO'd when he hit a shadow moon, and other showings that weighed and measured his peak strength abilities. On the other side the Hulk hit an equal power so hard that the mass of the event turned at the very least a planet to dust.
Your unwillingness to accept the idea that WB Hulk was far out of Superman's league in terms of strength and durability is your cross to bare. However on panel evidence suggests that Superman is nowhere near as strong as WB Hulk. To add to this it never once said that the Hulk had reached his limit. I can accept the idea that a CIS off Supes cna rain down blow after unanswered blow, but you have to prove that those blows would be effective to a guy that at a far weker level was able to tank a hit that tore a large portion of the moon off, and he was holding back to boot.
Sentry fought a Hulk that was holding back, did you read WW Hulk? If so perhaps you might want to think before typing such things.
those aren't superman's average showings...
Originally posted by Stoic
The question here should be how many times do you need to be told that the Hulk does not remain on a static level of strength like a character like Hercules is?You can attempt to make up whatever you like but on panel Wolverine told/said to the Hulk how he noticesd how difficult it was to cut him, and to further cement this fact, he was later seen to ignore what used to be known as high yield hits from high class 100 characters.
Superman in more consistent showings, has needed help to tug a planet, was KO'd when he hit a shadow moon, and other showings that weighed and measured his peak strength abilities. On the other side the Hulk hit an equal power so hard that the mass of the event turned at the very least a planet to dust.
Your unwillingness to accept the idea that WB Hulk was far out of Superman's league in terms of strength and durability is your cross to bare. However on panel evidence suggests that Superman is nowhere near as strong as WB Hulk. To add to this it never once said that the Hulk had reached his limit. I can accept the idea that a CIS off Supes cna rain down blow after unanswered blow, but you have to prove that those blows would be effective to a guy that at a far weker level was able to tank a hit that tore a large portion of the moon off, and he was holding back to boot.
Sentry fought a Hulk that was holding back, did you read WW Hulk? If so perhaps you might want to think beofre typig such things.
It sounds like you really don't understand what happened with the shadow moon incident, but if you want to try to get into a low-balling contest between Superman and the Hulk, you'll lose badly.
And lol at claiming WBH is stronger than Superman because he turned a planet to dust in a shared feat.
And again lol that he survived a blast that took out a chunk of the moon.
Superman survived a blast equal to 52 supernovas WHILE WEAKENED.
ONE SUPERNOVA is equal to 10 trillion hydrogen bombs (and I'm not making that up).
Again, Superman on multiple occasions has lifted infinite weight, slowed eternity, etc. So what does the Hulk have that, in your words, puts him so far beyond Superman in strength? Hope you have something bigger than infinite.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
It sounds like you really don't understand what happened with the shadow moon incident, but if you want to try to get into a low-balling contest between Superman and the Hulk, you'll lose badly.And lol at claiming WBH is stronger than Superman because he turned a planet to dust in a shared feat.
And again lol that he survived a blast that took out a chunk of the moon.
Superman survived a blast equal to 52 supernovas WHILE WEAKENED.
ONE SUPERNOVA is equal to 10 trillion hydrogen bombs (and I'm not making that up).
Again, Superman on multiple occasions has lifted infinite weight, slowed eternity, etc. So what does the Hulk have that, in your words, puts him so far beyond Superman in strength? Hope you have something bigger than infinite.
I would hope that I would lose at a low balling contest, because it is you doing to low balling. Making it seem like Superman is even close to WB Hulk in the dept. of strength, and durability. Would you also like people to believe that Superman could continue to increase in power at the same tempo that WB Hulk can?
And yet here you are again not understanding the Hulk's power set. Where did it say on panel that the Hulk had finally reached his limit? Please show the world because I think I missed it. Do you need a tutorial on his power set? Do you have any idea just how strong the guys that were hitting him were, and how he acting like he was being hit by a gentle breeze? Superman would not be able to tank that amount of damage in a consistent showing. CIS off means that he's doing everything in his power to win, not that his powers have been boosted. Superman would not be able to hurt WB Hulk. This is why it would just boil down to a long boring stalemate with Superman throwing ineffective punches, while the Hulk would not have the ability to hit him.