Originally posted by Galan007
Adult Franklin is FAR superior.
Yet he needed to amp himself with his younger self's power in order to kill a 4280-Celestial . And it didn't occur to him to simply warp the Celestials's offensive blasts into flowers(or anything harmless) , which little Franklin did using only SOME of his power :
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yet he needed to amp himself with his younger self's power in order to kill a 4280-Celestial . And it didn't occur to him to simply warp the Celestials's offensive blasts into flowers(or anything harmless) , which little Franklin did using only SOME of his power :
Actually, he only used the sphere representing young Franklin's powers to resurrect Galactus. That is all. There was no amp. (Notice how the sphere AF took from young Franklin only appears when he is ready to summon the Big G.) That said, Adult Franklin definitely takes this. It's obvious how much more experienced he is than his younger counterpart.
Originally posted by Doon
Actually, he only used the sphere representing young Franklin's powers to resurrect Galactus. That is all. There was no amp. (Notice how the sphere AF took from young Franklin only appears when he is ready to summon the Big G.) That said, Adult Franklin definitely takes this. It's obvious how much more experienced he is than his younger counterpart.
I'd actually have to disagree with you here . Here , after getting the orb , he glows with power(I hope I am not missing a page in between) :
So , it is apparent that he was being amped by some of that power , if not all .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I'd actually have to disagree with you here . Here , after getting the orb , he glows with power(I hope I am not missing a page in between) :So , it is apparent that he was being amped by some of that power , if not all .
AF was already glowing with power when he and Valeria first arrived at the scene. On that page, in addition to the one you've shown above, he displayed that energy output specifically when he was aloft or during flight.
The way I look at it, here are the facts:
1) Adult Franklin acquires the orb containing young Franklin's powers.
2) Adult Franklin uses the same orb for the purpose of resurrecting Galactus.
If AF was already amped by the orb's power, I don't think the artist would have explicitly crafted a scene where we see AF remove the orb from his body at the precise moment he needed/desired to use it. Follow what I'm getting at? If he was already amped by the power in the fight, he could have just willed Galactus to rise w/o having extracted the orb. So, in my opinion, there was no amp involved. I mean.. it's possible, but that's only based on speculation.
Originally posted by Doon
AF was already glowing with power when he and Valeria first arrived at the scene. On that page, in addition to the one you've shown above, he displayed that energy output specifically when he was aloft or during flight.The way I look at it, here are the facts:
1) Adult Franklin acquires the orb containing young Franklin's powers.
2) Adult Franklin uses the same orb for the purpose of resurrecting Galactus.If AF was already amped by the orb's power, I don't think the artist would have explicitly crafted a scene where we see AF remove the orb from his body at the precise moment he needed/desired to use it. Follow what I'm getting at? If he was already amped by the power in the fight, he could have just willed Galactus to rise w/o having extracted the orb. So, in my opinion, there was no amp involved. I mean.. it's possible, but that's only based on speculation.
I was just browsing a heated debate going on between two posters on comicvine regarding the events that happened in F4#604 , and the pro-Franklin guy(Hyper_God) shared most of your points , and made pretty good arguments to support his claims(although I sure as hell didn't appreciate him referring to me as an idiot) , and the only point I would disagree with him about was his claim that the Mad Celestials didn't want to take over the multiverse :
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/battle-of-the-abstract-level-beings/668697/?page=4
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Come to think of it Doon , that scan you showed of Val and Franklin glowing with power , is exactly the same scan which that Hyper_God dude showed in that thread I just linked , to counter his opponent's claim that adult Franklin was amped by the blue orb .I am beginning to wonder , is that you ?
Heh. No, that's not me.
It's pretty interesting that others have been having similar discussions on different message boards though. I haven't read HG's comments, but it's nice to know that I'm not alone in my view. No reason for him to call you an idiot though. Then again, his name is Hyper. lol
Originally posted by Doon
Heh. No, that's not me.It's pretty interesting that others have been having similar discussions on different message boards though. I haven't read HG's comments, but it's nice to know that I'm not alone in my view. No reason for him to call you an idiot though. Then again, his name is Hyper. lol
I once accidentally posted an entire comic on that forum , he was calling me an idiot for that . He referred to a couple of other ex-posters of comicvine in a derogatory fashion as well , so I am not really surprised at this .
However , I agree it can't possibly be you because the ego and self-bragging he showed would make quan seem modest in comparison .
It can't be denied though that he did make some pretty good points , and the only thing that I don't agree with him on was the Mad Celestials' original intention to take over the multiverse .